Reloads..1oz vs 11/8oz

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Outside of the obvious fact that it is cheaper to reload a 1oz load, are there any other benefits, and would it be better to maybe change to a 11/8 oz the farther back you shoot and at what yardage do you think this should be done at. Also is a 1oz with #8 shot the same as shooting a 11/8 oz with # 7, at the shorter distance; number of pellets almost the same.
 
Loading 1oz of 8's is the same as loading 11/8oz of 7 1/2 same pellet count. I shoot 1oz all the time and they pattern well out of my guns. But if I am shooting a Tournament I always go with 1 1/8oz of 8's. Just another head thing I guess.
 
At 22 yards & back, I've found it advantageous to go to
1-1/8 oz. and 7-1/2's. Otherwise, 1oz. of 8's will do nicely.

8's just don't seem as consistent from the back fence.
 
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I use fixed full now too. but I used to use IM in my other Berettas for 16's. Either one smokeballs the target with 1 oz loads, @ 16. It increases the confidence level greatly, I find, to hit them hard. I really like (most) 1 oz loads, for the recoil reduction. I don't shoot much handicap, and I'm only @ 20. But, I would surely use 1-1/8 after 22-23, if I was serious about it.
 
Does anyone mix 7 1/2 and 8's together?

That would be weird! Soon after leaving the muzzle the two different sizes would slow at different rates and the shot string would end up being longer and less dense at target range. I think remington tried something like that a few years back. Was supposed to be good for singles and handicap:confused:
 
I think 1 oz loads work really well, but I do not think I would use them in registered handicap competition. Winchester has been offering a 1 oz. load that they call Light Handicap. I do not think it really matters for 16 yards. As a side, the international guys use way lighter shot charge and their scores have not gone down among the contenders.
 
:p 1 1/8 to 1 loads have much to do with the quality of the pellets and wad design. Upon ignition, the pellets closest to the base will be pushed outwards and compress against the ones in front, thus disforming them.Those lower disformed pellets will scatter as well as those not encapsulated at the mouth by the wad. There have been several articles in the past few months about this. A number of Euro cartridge manufacturers use very hard pellets and faster speeds and 28 gram loads with much success. One, the shot is totaly encapsulated, two the shot is harder so it does not difform as much and as it is harder and lighter, there are more pellets!

In the next issue of ClaysportingUSA (March), there will be a article about the lazy man's way of choosing good shells, showing waht bargain shells look like and perform and what premium shells perform like.

Best regards,
Henry;)
 
I tend to shoot 1oz and less at almost everything.
I don't shoot much 12 gauge as a rule anymore, but that may change.
Just go my new goose gun in, had it designed for 1 1/8 oz steel for geese.
It has 34" barrels, long forcing cones and it is HEAVY!!
A mercury recoil reducer in it and an extra thick limbsaver should let me handle it all day long....
Cat
 
The only reason I am not shooting 1 oz. is that I can not find anything other than 1 1/8 and I am too lazy to load. I got a line on some 1 oz gamebore, but it will be a while.
 
1 oz are excellent for 16 and doubles. I found after many years of getting beat up to leave the 3 dram loads and super handicaps alone. From 27 my scores went up shooting regular 2 3/4 1 1/8 factory loads. It really didn't make much difference whether they were 8 or 7 1/2. If you're ;oading your own, a gold medal hull with 18.5 to 19 grs. Green Dot with an ounce of lead in a claybuster 8 petal wad is the best there is for singles and doubles. For doubles use 9 for the first bird and 8 for the second.
 
1 oz are excellent for 16 and doubles. I found after many years of getting beat up to leave the 3 dram loads and super handicaps alone. From 27 my scores went up shooting regular 2 3/4 1 1/8 factory loads. It really didn't make much difference whether they were 8 or 7 1/2. If you're ;oading your own, a gold medal hull with 18.5 to 19 grs. Green Dot with an ounce of lead in a claybuster 8 petal wad is the best there is for singles and doubles. For doubles use 9 for the first bird and 8 for the second.

I agree with you on everything you say. Except for the #9's. I don't like the way they break targets, Definately not as hard as the 8's.
 
I try to shoot the first one as close to the trap as possible. I use 9's cause I want a cloud of the little buggers racing to the target. Just a little extra leeway.
 
I shoot equally bad with 1 oz or 1-1/8 oz, #8, 2-3/4 dram target loads. I've stuck with the 1 oz loads for some time now and don't miss the extra 50 #8 pellets.

Ever watched Olympic Trap? They use 7/8 oz and are breaking much steeper and faster targets than we are.
 
I shoot equally bad with 1 oz or 1-1/8 oz, #8, 2-3/4 dram target loads. I've stuck with the 1 oz loads for some time now and don't miss the extra 50 #8 pellets.

Ever watched Olympic Trap? They use 7/8 oz and are breaking much steeper and faster targets than we are.
Amen:D
 

International Trap Loads: Most of which are loaded with very hard shot, copper/nickel plating, at 1325 or better. Not all that hard to break targets with that stuff (if you're "on" ) ... but the price - ouch ! Flats of Federal Gold Medal paper 24 gram International loads are even more expensive than Gold Medal 28's and 410's ... and a couple of bucks a box more that 12ga. Federal GM paper 1-1/8 Handicap Trap loads. !

Try a round or two of "trench" or Compac with your 1 oz. target loads at 1185 - you will notice a difference !
 
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