reading a swedish mauser disc...

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I've used google-fu, and still can't find a picture with the same stamping as what my rifle has. Any help appreciated. Please read my description below.

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This disc is not off my rifle, but is a clear picture of one( our camera sucks). In the largest portion of the disc, there are 2 rows of numbers. I know what they represent, but I cannot find a rifle with my markings.

For my rifle, directly over top of the 6,51 on the top row, the triangle stamp is punched between and above the 6,5 of the 6,51 on the left side of the disc. There are no punch marks stamped anywhere in the rows following either the 6,46 of the bottom row, or the 6,51 of the top row.

I assumed this to mean a bore of 651, but the more I think about it, the more I confuse myself. If someone knows, feel free to school me. Thanks.
 
Where does the triangle points? does it points to the 6.46?

If so, I'd personally doubt that it's the original disc, but nothing is impossible.
What does the bore condition show? (it's the 1, 2, 3 in the smaller division of the disc)....

What year is this rifle? What is the barrel lenght?
 
Baribal said:
Where does the triangle points? does it points to the 6.46?

If so, I'd personally doubt that it's the original disc, but nothing is impossible.
What does the bore condition show? (it's the 1, 2, 3 in the smaller division of the disc)....

What year is this rifle? What is the barrel lenght?
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The triangle is above the 6,51, between the 6,5

Bore condition shows a triangle above #2.

Rifle is 1915, with the barrel being 29.5 inches( rod inserted, bolt closed).

There's a picture of the disc in the EE, but its not clear.
 
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It's definitely 6.51mm, bore condition 2 means "rust in the corners between land and grooves, some spot of rust in the grooves". But don't worry about it, it's the normal condition for used rifles. The Swedes did not discard a bore before condition "4" occurs.
Condition "2" means "average" bore. They were really strict regarding bore condition and even a "4" would still be a shootable one.

Does the rear sight have a big "T" stamped on it? - The "T" refers to "Törped" wich is the pointed bullet (spitzer) and the disc you have is related to the "T" sight.
 
Then, you likely have a fake disc, my friend.

The "T" marked sight is the right one for the "Törped" M/41 ammunition wich should have been installed if the disc was installed at the arsenal.
The Törped Overslag Str means the distance, in STRECKS (There is 6300 Strecks in a cirlce, 1 streck being approx. 0.1m @ 100m (kindof mil like in "mildot").
This tells you how low you need to hold the rifle to hit at 100m. ex. if there's a "3" stamped in this area, this will mean you have to aim 0.3m below the impact point at 100m.
 
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It's interesting to know how to read the disc, but the information is meaningless.

How much has the gun been shot, how has it been cleaned and how was it stored in the 40+ years since the disc was marked? Is the disc even original to that gun?
 
You are totally right, the grading being from 0 to 4. 4 was rejected and 0 was a non-issued rifle (or barrel).
But when the Swedes got rid of their surplus rifles, a lot of bare discs made it through, too and used discs can be found in gunshows. So, most of the time, the discs on the rifles are "fakes" (or replacement, if you want).

Not all the rifles were fitted with the "T" sights (designed for the M/41 Törped or "6.5mm Skarpa Patroner M/94 - prj M/41" - prj M/41 being the 139 gr, spitzer).
The rifles like the M/94 and M/96 and M/38 calibrated for using the M/94 Skarpa Patroner - prj M/94 - the round nose bullet - 156 gr - had a "sight correction" stock plate, wich was for use with the M/41 Törped ammos.
These plates, most of the time, have been removed from the stocks.
 
Andy said:
It's interesting to know how to read the disc, but the information is meaningless.

How much has the gun been shot, how has it been cleaned and how was it stored in the 40+ years since the disc was marked? Is the disc even original to that gun?
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........Andy nailed it.....................
 
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