Do Not Get Winchester 1400

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I said I would clean a couple guns for a friend and in exchange would get some deer meat and a couple gun cleaning supplies. He gave me 4 in total, two bolt action rifles, a Remington 870 and a Winchester 1400 MK2. I cleaned the 870 with ease and no issues what-so-ever, almost a pleasure to clean. I then move onto the 1400 AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I WISH I DIDN'T TOUCH THAT PIECE OF ####!!!!

You essentially need some downers to keep you calm, some uppers to keep you working on the thing, 14 hands and an army of engineers to decipher the stupid thing. It also doesn't help that the gun was dirty, however just a basic field strip is almost impossible.

I have spent almost 4 hours trying to clean that thing and 3 of those hours were trying to get the ejector spring back in. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE REMOVE THE EJECTOR SPRING!!!!

Man I am tired and hungry and going to kick my friend in the balls for bringing that thing.

PS: Don't wear white when cleaning a firearm.
 
lol, I have the 1800 and it's a total breeze to disassemble and clean. They must have done something right when they made the new one
 
To each his own. The 1400 is not an especially complicated gun,and they don't strike me as being terribly challenging to reassemble.
 
P.E. Islander said:
To each his own. The 1400 is not an especially complicated gun,and they don't strike me as being terribly challenging to reassemble.
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Well it was my first time disassembling that shotgun. If it was clean it would of been not that bad. It wouldn't be that bad for sure if I didn't fully disassemble the bolt.
 
Huntsman said:
Never heard of the 1800?? Blackpowder is it?
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Heh, yes, why yes it is, it's their new blackpowder model, shoots paper wads only, I use it to turn on the TV, light switches, etc from a distance. But what I meant to say was that I have the 1300 and it's a breeze to disassemble.
 
Brentn said:
Heh, yes, why yes it is, it's their new blackpowder model, shoots paper wads only, I use it to turn on the TV, light switches, etc from a distance. But what I meant to say was that I have the 1300 and it's a breeze to disassemble.
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Yeah I know, was just razz'n ya. I have one too and they are a breeze to strip, much easier than my Mossbergs ;)
 
I have a defender which is the 1300 action, never had a problem, I find that using an old knife works about the best for removing or installing the ejector spring. As far as the bolt it wasn't meant to be disassembled regularily, particularily in the field, if you want it clean, dump the bolt in some varsol for 20 min. dry and oil.
 
The answer here is in the question.

Nonus cleaned two bolt actions and a pump shotgun. All very easy.

Then he moved on to the semi-automatic. Mega problems.

It's not the gun, it's the action. Semi-auto's are always going to be harder than bolt guns... (hold trigger down + remove bolt), or pumps, (unscrew cap, slide barrel out).

If a newish shooter (Hey Nonus!), decided to go to work on a semi-auto, especially a centerfire semi, after only having experience with manual actions, he'd be in for a BIG suprise, and thus, "the gun is crap".

Good thing it wasn't a double action revolver!:eek:
 
Ohh the gun was crap, just like the Remington 742 he had too.

Pump actions are like cleaning a booger from your nose, stupidly easy.

Just that the 1400 requires like twenty steps to get the bolt out, the cocking handle was a huge pain to get out. Cannot remove the magazine spring cause you need some stupid small punch. It was one nightmare of modern engineering, no wonder Winchester Arms went belly up.

As for the Reming 742 you need a special tool just to remove the barrel and you need to remove the barrel to remove the bolt.
 
Do not get winchester 1400

You are quite right they are crap! The receiver tends to spread so the action jams. They claimed it was from firing 3" mag through it even though it is chambered for them.:cool:
 
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