Revolver question about caliber

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Did not know where to put this , so I decided here would be a good place.

I have read that you can have a .357 and use .38spl rounds in it as well, why? Can you then shoot .357 rounds in a .38spl?

Does it matter what brand of revolver, or does it cover all brands?

I ask because I will be obtaining a .38spl and was curious,..


Thanks
 
All .357's will shoot a .38, the only problem you'll run into is if you shoot a lot of .38s, you will get a build up of powder residue etc. in the cylinder which may make it a little tight to load .357. Keep it clean or shoot all .357, just load them light.
 
38 Special and 357 Mag are the same shape but the 357 is longer. Same with 44 mag and 44 Special or even the 32's (for those lucky enough to be grandfathered).

38 fits in 357 but not the other way around. And even if it does fit DO NOT fire 357 in 38 Special. you will be looking for fingers bits of the cylinder on the floor.
 
Did not know where to put this , so I decided here would be a good place.

I have read that you can have a .357 and use .38spl rounds in it as well, why? Can you then shoot .357 rounds in a .38spl?

Does it matter what brand of revolver, or does it cover all brands?

I ask because I will be obtaining a .38spl and was curious,..


Thanks
.357 Mag rounds are longer than .38 spl rounds and consequently wound not fit in a .38 spl revolver (they were intentionally designed this way to prevent people from blowing up their guns).
 
38 Special and 357 Mag are the same shape but the 357 is longer. Same with 44 mag and 44 Special or even the 32's (for those lucky enough to be grandfathered).

38 fits in 357 but not the other way around. And even if it does fit DO NOT fire 357 in 38 Special. you will be looking for fingers bits of the cylinder on the floor.

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According to the Lyman manual, .38 special pressure tops out at about 16,000 CUP and .357 magnum is over 40,000. Be careful.
 
I had my RPAL instructor tell the class that they could indeed use them interchangably. When I tried to correct her, she whispered " I'm not sure if it is a good idea, but I see people do it all the time."

This was my only complaint from the guys at guns.to. But a pretty big one.
 
I had my RPAL instructor tell the class that they could indeed use them interchangably. When I tried to correct her, she whispered " I'm not sure if it is a good idea, but I see people do it all the time."

This was my only complaint from the guys at guns.to. But a pretty big one.
now we know why there's been a flurry of "interchangable" questions lately- some course instructors are using conjecture nstead of fact- ie the 45 /410 thread,and this one - it's ALL IN the reloading manuals and probably somewhere in the course- the fact is you can't stick a long cartridge or an oversized cartridge in an undersized chamber- ie a 357 case in a 38 special, or a 45colt in a 410 chambered shotgun- the NEXT ONE will be "i tried a 45 colt in my 44 magnum and IT FITS- WOULD IT BE SAFE TO FIRE this- which it does- and IT ISN'T
 
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It's good to know the history of firearms, it helps you know why things are, how they are.

The .38 special was a very old cartridge design and was set up to use blackpowder, and had a lot of extra space in the cartridge, when loaded with the new smokeless powders.

By the 1930's A firearms enthusiast and writer named Elmer Keith decided to start experimenting with his guns to get more out of them.

He was using more modern firearms, made of more modern steels that could take much higher pressures than the old guns designed around the black powders, and getting much higher performance out of them. He wrote about what kind of performance he was getting, and people were interested.

He used the old .38 special cartridges with the extra space in them in these guns though, because he wasn't a factory with unlimited resources, just a normal guy who used what he had on hand.

There was so much interest in these new experimental cartridges, that they went mainstream.

Engineers aren't stupid though, and they new that if they just putting a warning on the box not to use these new cartridges loaded with very powerful loads, people were going to start blowing their old weaker guns up, and their hands off. So, they decided to make the new ".357 magnum", only 1/8th of an inch longer than the original .38 special. That way, the new cartridges would not chamber in the old guns, they would stick out just a tiny bit, (1/8th of an inch) and prevent your closing the double action revolver or advancing the cylinder on a single action revolver.

You would still be able to use the old .38's in the new guns, and manufacturers were still able to use almost all the same tooling to make those guns and cases, with just a small modification to make the chambers and cartridges 1/8 inch longer, and no other changes.

Thus, the magnum was born. The word magnum however, is much older, simply referring to a larger than normal bottle of champagne, wine, or spirits.

Make sense now?
 
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I wonder if the .357 was originally mistakenly wrote down instead of .375 From measurement standpoint it seems more logical.
 
the 38 comes from the really old heel based bullet, which was actually about 361 diameter- and a PURE lead slug- might have something to do with "sealing " the bore much in the same way blackpowder revolvers do- for instance the RECOMMENDED ball diameter for my old army is 457, but it's bore is 452-454
 
.38 is the diameter of the exterior of the case. From what I understand, earlier versions of the .38 had bullets the same diameter as the exterior case wall, kinda like modern .22LR, and the name stuck.
 
I believe that Elmer also wrecked some revolvers, part of the learning curve.
.357 brass is designed to handle the pressures.
Modern .357 revolvers use different metallurgy than traditional .38 revolvers.
 
I believe that Elmer also wrecked some revolvers, part of the learning curve.
.357 brass is designed to handle the pressures.
Modern .357 revolvers use different metallurgy than traditional .38 revolvers.

you should see his notes on the heavy loaded 44 special- quite enlightning
 
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