Damn, I suck at shooting a pistol.
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At work I shoot a Sig 225 with 12 lb trigger pull in double action. For fun I shoot a GP 100, S&W 686 and a Redhawk all double action ... I'd be willing to bet I can hold my own double action against any 3 lb trigger. Its all about trigger control.
So shooting a gun with a 12 lb. trigger that's got plenty of stacking and creep is just as easy as shooting a gun with a crisp 3 lb. trigger? Give me a break.
How do you quote him and then misquote him??? He couldn't be clearer.
He never said it was 'just as easy', he said if you know how to shoot then it doesn't matter which gun you use...and he's right.
jl
Some great replies here.
There, fixed it for you.
jl
Okay, I'm game. I'll bring my S&W 686 with a 2.5 lb SA trigger and you bring your Glock, M&P, Ruger SR9 or any other DAO pistol. We'll move the target back to 25 yards and compare groups.
So, are you ready to put your money where your mouth is, keyboard warrior?
How did this become a discussion about the accuracy of your gun vs mine?
I thought it was all about your crappy advice and misquotes.
Still, ...ATS runs at least once a month at Abby and we host shooting courses every year that draw shooters from all over the country...maybe you will show up and school us all
jl
I thought it was all about your crappy advice and misquotes.
Still, ...ATS runs at least once a month at Abby and we host shooting courses every year that draw shooters from all over the country...maybe you will show up and school us all
jl
Are you suffering from amnesia or are you just plain retarded (or, as I suspect, both)? You are the guy who said, and I quote: "if you know how to shoot then it doesn't matter which gun you use".
Actually, you are retarded as someone else said that, I just agreed with him.
Obviously English is not your first language. That's OK, no big deal, I'll explain it for you.
What that means, and in the spirit it was intended, is that the FUNDAMENTALS of shooting don't change and if you KNOW how to shoot a pistol then it doesn't matter which one you use.
The entire thread is about HOW to shoot a pistol, not accuracy of different pistols.
Does a FIXED BARREL, SINGLE ACTION revolver have better inherent accuracy than a cammed barrel double action automatic...well DUH!
But that wasn't the topic of discussion now was it? I suspect you are seizing on this because it is the only way you might have even a hint of credibility.
Kind of the same way you jumped on the whole define combat distance thing, you are all about minutiae and have no substance.
jl
Obviously English is not your first language. That's OK, no big deal, I'll explain it for you.
What that means, and in the spirit it was intended, is that the FUNDAMENTALS of shooting don't change and if you KNOW how to shoot a pistol then it doesn't matter which one you use.
The entire thread is about HOW to shoot a pistol, not accuracy of different pistols.
Does a FIXED BARREL, SINGLE ACTION revolver have better inherent accuracy than a cammed barrel double action automatic...well DUH!
But that wasn't the topic of discussion now was it? I suspect you are seizing on this because it is the only way you might have even a hint of credibility.
Kind of the same way you jumped on the whole define combat distance thing, you are all about minutiae and have no substance.
jl
Whatever, I'm tired of your incoherent nonsense. My original point was that a gun with a good single-action trigger could be shot more accurately than a Glock, especially by a new shooter, and especially at 25m, which is the distance at which the person who started this thread was shooting. Now, apparently even you are in agreement with me, at least as of 5:08 pm eastern time today (who knows what's going to happen once your amnesia kicks in again).
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here is what I would quantify as "combat accuracy"....
and thisis just my 2 cents on how I "used" to judge my shooting skill....
If I could group all the rounds from a pistol on a 8.5"x11" piece of paper shooting as fast as I could I was happy..... that size is about the size of the "A" zone or "down Zero".....
now that I shot IDPA and am shooting on the move and shooting from "other" positions I have re thought what I thought was acceptable accuracy.... last year I shot approx 7000 rnds of 9mm thru my glock 17 and can now easily group offhand on half a sheet of paper firing fairly quickly.... at 25 yds.
BUT what I have learned over this time is to move the target closer.... to 10-15 yds and practice double taps and tactical sequece.... groups at 25 yds mean very little.
just my two cents, and kind of a wandering narration at that. for a new shooter, be happy if you can keep all your rounds on a normal piece of paper.
and thisis just my 2 cents on how I "used" to judge my shooting skill....
If I could group all the rounds from a pistol on a 8.5"x11" piece of paper shooting as fast as I could I was happy..... that size is about the size of the "A" zone or "down Zero".....
now that I shot IDPA and am shooting on the move and shooting from "other" positions I have re thought what I thought was acceptable accuracy.... last year I shot approx 7000 rnds of 9mm thru my glock 17 and can now easily group offhand on half a sheet of paper firing fairly quickly.... at 25 yds.
BUT what I have learned over this time is to move the target closer.... to 10-15 yds and practice double taps and tactical sequece.... groups at 25 yds mean very little.
just my two cents, and kind of a wandering narration at that. for a new shooter, be happy if you can keep all your rounds on a normal piece of paper.
can't you two deal with this with private messages?
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You mean you're tired of looking stupid? Sorry, I guess that was the second example this afternoon that I pointed out.
Your original, next to useless, off topic post that added absolutely nothing to the discussion has now been justified (in your mind), cool.
The offer for you to come and be a guest instructor still stands...can't wait to see the huge (sic) improvements in the students after a few hours of your expert tutelage.
jl
Your original, next to useless, off topic post that added absolutely nothing to the discussion has now been justified (in your mind), cool.
The offer for you to come and be a guest instructor still stands...can't wait to see the huge (sic) improvements in the students after a few hours of your expert tutelage.
jl
Could be any of the above reasons or it might just be the gun fitting you (or not as it were).
I had a G22 I couldn't shoot worth a pinch, although others could, but it was fine off a bench. I can however, shoot a G21 and G27 with good accuracy. Although G22 felt comfortable, it just wasn't the right fit for me.
I had a G22 I couldn't shoot worth a pinch, although others could, but it was fine off a bench. I can however, shoot a G21 and G27 with good accuracy. Although G22 felt comfortable, it just wasn't the right fit for me.
