Is the Tikka T3 the new Remington 700?

I think few purchasers of T3's will be looking for aftermarket parts. Nor will they be asking how to improve the trigger or make the bolt smoother. And if the gun isn't up to their accuracy expectations, they really need something radically better than a factory hunting rifle, either that or they need to learn how to shoot.
 
In CBA "PRODUCTION CLASS" benchrest, and this is where factory made rifles can be judged, the Rem. 700 and Savage completely dominate equipment lists, with not one Tikka or Sako mentioned!!
 
I think few purchasers of T3's will be looking for aftermarket parts.

Its not about those who did buy T3's. Its about those who didn't, or wouldn't, due to the feel of the rifle or the plastic parts. The people that were turned off, are the ones that will prevent the T3 from outselling the 700.
 
Its not about those who did buy T3's. Its about those who didn't, or wouldn't, due to the feel of the rifle or the plastic parts. The people that were turned off, are the ones that will prevent the T3 from outselling the 700.

Absolutely agree, this gun will be considered ugly and cheap looking by many. Its not for everyone. Maybe it's history repeating itself with some parallel to the M-16 or Glock pistol and how it was greeted with its use of light weight parts that defied convention at that time.
 
In CBA "PRODUCTION CLASS" benchrest, and this is where factory made rifles can be judged, the Rem. 700 and Savage completely dominate equipment lists, with not one Tikka or Sako mentioned!!

This is most probably due to the availability of aftermarket parts. The Remington 700 is stiffer than most, but the savage 110 is not. I haven't paid attention to Benchrest fads for a few years, but it always struck me that what was popular, was what Sinclairs' had the most toys for. Most American aftermarket companies are loathed to make components for non-American rifles. The Sako single shot action was as stiff, and the finished rifle as accurate as any 40X.
Remington rifles have a "reputation" for accuracy; they may have let this lapse in the last few years. Savage is doing very well, and supplying the customers what they want. Sako is right up there in design and quality. Because they are not being used in "production class" is no indication of otherwise. I actually think that the T3 would do quite well in the benchrest game. (my opinion).
Mike
 
Hi,
We were having a rather spirited discussion about the relative quality of current sporting bolt-action rifles at work yesterday when one of my colleagues suggested that the Tikka T3 will do in the next thirty years what the Remington 700 did for the previous thirty years.
I am no lover of the 700, particularly given the somewhat variable levels of quality control we have seen recently. The T3 on the other hand is rugged, reliable and I have yet to hear of one that doesn't shoot superbly right out of the box. The only issue with the T3 is the relative lack of aftermarket replacement parts and accessories available for it, but surely as the sales of this action continue to increase then manufacturers of everything from stocks to barrels will get in on the act. They already seem to be doing just that in Europe.
I want to hear your views.
Tack

I don't think the T3 has any aspirations of being a 700. It's content being a superbly accurate hunting rifle at an afforable price.
 
For a hunting bolt action, the Tikka may be the next 700..but not for target/benchrest shooting. It would require major changes, so many in fact that you would change the gun radically. One must be able to drop or load singly without the use of the mag, for serious bench work, it's just not possible with my tikka, shells hang up and won't feed, and my fingers can't fit in the tiny opening to right the case. I'll take a 700 for ease of use and aftermarket parts and i think it will remain that way. I know a couple of gunsmiths that will only work on 700s.

Odd - at the range I just drop them in one at a time from the top, close the bolt and shoot my .300 T3 Deluxe. Lots of room. Doubt the T3 was ever intended to target the benchrest/competition shooter, and in many classes if they're not shooting rifles that are definitely changed "radically" I might be missing something. $ for $, the Tikka is still right up there for accuracy, reliability, and maybe more important manufacturing consistency or quality. Once you get an exceptional shooter, far more common out of the box in a Tikka than a Savage or the 700, you tend to hang on to it.
 
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My Tikka absolutely will not feed unless you use the magazine, everytime i try it,(it's a habit), I have to flip the gun on it's side and shake it or remove the mag and let it fall out the bottom, then reload it into the mag. Don't have to do any of that with my Remingtons.
 
Im wondering how out of the box accuracy compares. Eg how a Sako compares to a 700.
This is most probably due to the availability of aftermarket parts. The Remington 700 is stiffer than most, but the savage 110 is not. I haven't paid attention to Benchrest fads for a few years, but it always struck me that what was popular, was what Sinclairs' had the most toys for. Most American aftermarket companies are loathed to make components for non-American rifles. The Sako single shot action was as stiff, and the finished rifle as accurate as any 40X.
Remington rifles have a "reputation" for accuracy; they may have let this lapse in the last few years. Savage is doing very well, and supplying the customers what they want. Sako is right up there in design and quality. Because they are not being used in "production class" is no indication of otherwise. I actually think that the T3 would do quite well in the benchrest game. (my opinion).
Mike
 
Im wondering how out of the box accuracy compares. Eg how a Sako compares to a 700.

My Sako was/is much more accurate than my 700 Ti and on a par with my old '92 vintage 700 Mtn.rifle and BDL SS.
Depending on the loads fed to each rifle the Sako and my T3 St Lite are pretty similar, however a lot depends on how much the shooter's arthritis is bothering...( thats me ).
Accuracy-wise, I don't think there is a great deal of difference as none of them have shot factory ammo....I reload for everything so each toy regardless of make gets its own "pet load".
I'm sorry if this isn't a good response to your question, a better answer might come from a shooter who uses factory loads in both Sako and 700 Rem.
 
The 700's action is just too stiff for hunting. It may be more suitable to build a custom rifle on it but its action just isnt smooth and it isnt ergonomically friendly.

I guess it is true...opinions are like arseholes, right or wrong, everyone has one!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
The 700's action is just too stiff for hunting. It may be more suitable to build a custom rifle on it but its action just isnt smooth and it isnt ergonomically friendly.

you sir are either:

A: Mentally Retarded
B: High as f**k on crack
C: All of the above

As I said, I own Tikkas and Sakos as well as Remingtons....not being defensive....just saying your statement is a load of BS...ok ???

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Hi,
We were having a rather spirited discussion about the relative quality of current sporting bolt-action rifles at work yesterday when one of my colleagues suggested that the Tikka T3 will do in the next thirty years what the Remington 700 did for the previous thirty years...
I sure hope not. The current incarnation of the Tikka, the T3, is a gun built by and for bean counters. Beretta and even Sako have increasingly done everything possible to reduce the cost of production at the expense of what was once a fine rifle M55/65. If this is where rifles are headed over the next 30 years I shudder to think where it will eventually stop.
 
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