Getting caught hunting on private land

"Wrong Turn" is another good movie illustrating the danger of trespassing. LOL!

So, lets say you are the property owner hunting on your own property - say a couple thousand acres of posted no trespassing land. Can the CO patrol on your property without permission?
 
promac said:
"Wrong Turn" is another good movie illustrating the danger of trespassing. LOL!

So, lets say you are the property owner hunting on your own property - say a couple thousand acres of posted no trespassing land. Can the CO patrol on your property without permission?
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When you put it that way. Not sure about the "patrol" part but they can enter on to private property in the course of their duties.
 
Timberlord said:
Two fellas were hunting on property that they had verbal permission to hunt.
A neigbour landowner ( anti hunter ) called the OPP and the two were charged $75 for tresspassing without any OPP contact with the property owner.
They paid the fine since it would cost them over twice that for taking time off work to defend themselves in court...money grab 'er what??
They've since got written permission and everything is okay since.
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Same thing happened to me many years ago while bow hunting.
I had verbal permission but the land owner was hardly ever home.

An anti hunter saw me enter the property with a compound bow and called the cops.

So I paid the fine and kept on hunting. Just changed my parking spot to his drive way.

I had to walk a bit further but the wind was to my advantage most days so it was a good trade off.:)
 
We hunt a twp that requires written permission from the landowner to discharge a firearm or possess a firearm on private property even if the landowner is standing beside you and hunting with you? We were in the farmers yard two days ago and the cops came into the yard after a nature walker saw our group hunting yotes? This is a twp by-law and different from a trespassing law? You better check with the twp as well as your provincal laws? Fine is $500 first offence up to $5000. That being said you should never just pay a fine because it is cheaper than going to court? Just because your are charged with an offence does not mean you are guilty of it?
 
Some very good advice here. It answer my question.

So, here in Alberta, where do you find out who owns the land you would like to hunt on? Also, how can you find where the crown land starts and private land begins?

Roscoe
 
7mmlefty said:
Same thing happened to me many years ago while bow hunting.
I had verbal permission but the land owner was hardly ever home.

An anti hunter saw me enter the property with a compound bow and called the cops.

So I paid the fine and kept on hunting. Just changed my parking spot to his drive way.

I had to walk a bit further but the wind was to my advantage most days so it was a good trade off.:)
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This is so wrong.
 
In Ontario there is both the Trespass to Property Act and trespassing to hunt or fish under the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act.
 
Many years ago, while hunting, I entered private land inadvertently. [No posting, no fence, no cultivation] When I returned to my vehicle, a Conservation Officer was waiting for me there. He said someone had observed me on the private property, and that he had responded to that report. I told him that I had entered this land in complete innocence, not seeing any posting, fence or evidence of human or livestock activity, and additionally, I knew that the land area I started hunting on was crown land and legal to hunt on. He took a statement from me and informed me he would talk to a representative of the landowner [A company, not a farmer or rancher] and get back to me. At that time, he also informed me that fines for tresspass ranged up to $1000.00.
Less than 24 hous later, he arrived at my place of lodging, and served me with a ticket for the nominal fine of $100.00. Told me that this was the minimum he could write for the offense,[trespassing] and that he was aware that the boundaries of this private land were poorly marked. However, he reminded me that it is the hunter's responsibility to know where he is and to have a knowlege of the boundaries within the area of the hunt. We parted amicably.
Lesson learned! I acquire maps of any areas that a I am infamiliar with, and find out who owns what, and exactly where -- before I hunt. Permission is in writing and on my person while hunting on any private land. Regards, Eagleye.
 
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Holy sh*t my wife wants me to move from BC to Alberta where everywhere is private land...

Not interested...

Here in BC it is mostly crown land and if you do have to deal with crossing private land or you are unaware of where the private land begins get your self a free miners license and you will be covered under the Mining Act and Mining right away acts of BC.

Which basically covers you going anywhere you want without having to ask permission.

I love BC...... :)
 
Same thing happened to me many years ago while bow hunting.
I had verbal permission but the land owner was hardly ever home.

An anti hunter saw me enter the property with a compound bow and called the cops.

So I paid the fine and kept on hunting. Just changed my parking spot to his drive way.

I had to walk a bit further but the wind was to my advantage most days so it was a good trade off.
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Hey Lefty, that's bizarre, did you not consider taking that to court?
No lawyer needed for that one, CO or PO, they both need some GROUNDS to lay a charge
 
smokin'stoegie said:
Same thing happened to me many years ago while bow hunting.
I had verbal permission but the land owner was hardly ever home.

An anti hunter saw me enter the property with a compound bow and called the cops.

So I paid the fine and kept on hunting. Just changed my parking spot to his drive way.

I had to walk a bit further but the wind was to my advantage most days so it was a good trade off.
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Hey Lefty, that's bizarre, did you not consider taking that to court?
No lawyer needed for that one, CO or PO, they both need some GROUNDS to lay a charge
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Naw, It wasnt worth my time to get involved with all the BS.
I think the fine was 45 bucks back then, around 1985 or so.
 
Claybuster said:
In these parts it isn't the locals who cause the issues. The problem is created by idiots from adjacent urban areas who show no respect for private property signs.

Now just in case this thread was put up by someone who thinks just paying a small fine is the price of hunting wherever you want I'd carefully consider that proposition.

If I see people with guns on my property I am not going to call the police and say "Oh some hunters got lost can you drop over and get rid of them."

What I'm going to say and have said is, "There are armed men on my property. I don't know if they are hunting or not. I think they may have pointed guns at the house and livestock and I'm worried about my safety." I can assure you that the tresspassing fine will be the very least of your concerns.
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Good idea. That is what I'm going to do this year.
If you want to hunt, go on crown land or buy your own property.

Gun owners scream about "property rights" this and that when they talk about gun control, yet they show very little respect for
private property rights when it comes to private land.
 
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In Ontario we have something that is sometimes overlooked?
The Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, Sec 13 (1) states A person shall not interfer with lawful hunting, trapping or fishing by,

Sec 13 (1) (a) tampering with traps, nets, bait, firearms or any other thing used for hunting, trapping or fishing,

Sec 13 (1) (b) placing himself or herself in a postion, for the purpose of interfering, that hinders or prevents hunting, trapping or fishing, or?

Sec 13 (1) (c) engaging in an activity, for the purpose of interfering, that disturbs or is likely to disturb wildlife or fish?

Sec 13 (2) A person shall not purport to give notice that entry to premises is prohibited for the purpose of hunting or fishing or that hunting or fishing is prohibited on premises unless the person has authority to give the notice

This is usually for a landowner living on a lot the size of a postage stamp and now thinks he is a land baron and owns as far as the eye can see or your PETA fans??
 
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It's not always simple about where crown land starts and ends. I am new to Alberta and it took several searches to even find the county name that I was looking at hunting in.

I'm going to have to research this like a mofo.
 
RoscoeT said:
It's not always simple about where crown land starts and ends. I am new to Alberta and it took several searches to even find the county name that I was looking at hunting in.

I'm going to have to research this like a mofo.
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Three simple letters...GPS...it'll save you a world of grief. You can pinpoint yourself in relation to roadways and towns. This is usually close enough to know which WMZ you're in, and who's land you're on.
 
Tikka300 said:
Why is it so hard for some people to simply ask for permission to access private property?
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x inifinity!

Fellow Manitoban, do you know if the private landowner is required to post their property. It seems to me that they are not, you must have written permission to hunt whether the land is posted or not.

Are the rules in the Mb Hunting Guide?
 
I live in S.W. Ontario where there are not many spots to hunt on public land so permission is usually needed. I saved my money to buy a small bush lot (50 acres) and as a hunter I have no problem alowing people to hunt if thay ask permission. Its those people who dont ask that piss off the land owners and get denied permission to hunt there again. It only takes a nock on the door to get permission.
 
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