Is the Tikka T3 the new Remington 700?
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Yeah, but I think a lot of guys would pay a few bucks more for a metal bolt shroud and trigger guard. IMO, that's the only thing holding the T3 back...
Maybe I should patent them...
Same thing with the CZ's that come with nice walnut and bluing, and they put a stupid plastic floorplate on them...
Yeah, but I think a lot of guys would pay a few bucks more for a metal bolt shroud and trigger guard. IMO, that's the only thing holding the T3 back...
Maybe I should patent them...
Same thing with the CZ's that come with nice walnut and bluing, and they put a stupid plastic floorplate on them...
LOL....Tikkas are just fine the way they are....some of us actually like them and don't want the addition of heavy metal parts that would serve no purpose but make a few guys like you happy. If you don't like them that's your choice but you don't need to invent reasons to convince the rest of us they are no good.
ah the weight saving argument...
there is no plastic on my SS/Lam Mod 7... it still weighs 7lb with a scope...
face it, the hunting industry is full of cheap bastards. the flood of plastic, "extra value" priced firearms in the last 10yrs proves this.
virtually every gun on the market today is more then accurate enough for 300m hunting. if the makings of a quality firearm were solely value priced accuracy we'd all be shooting $250 Stevens.
there is no plastic on my SS/Lam Mod 7... it still weighs 7lb with a scope...
face it, the hunting industry is full of cheap bastards. the flood of plastic, "extra value" priced firearms in the last 10yrs proves this.
virtually every gun on the market today is more then accurate enough for 300m hunting. if the makings of a quality firearm were solely value priced accuracy we'd all be shooting $250 Stevens.
My point was that adding metal to a Tikka would make it heavier, not that all metal guns were heavy. Of course the Tikka is a value priced gun and of course that's why there's plastic parts on it...so what....it works well and I've yet to hear of any of the "cheap" plastic parts breaking and they all seem to shoot incredibly well. If you don't like 'em, don't buy 'em but it does get a bit tiresome on here with people droning on about what pieces of crap they are because they have plastic parts. If plastic is not for you fair enough but for some of us it works well and there is nothing wrong with a Tikka, definitely nothing that metal or fibreglass will fix anyhow.
I think what riles folks the most is the fact that plastic is strictly used to cut manufacturing costs, on both cars and guns. Companies and others try to explain it away by making it seem that they did it so the gun would be better with the plastic. I have wooden stocked guns and plastic stocked guns, and it's probably just by chance that my wooden ones shoot better then my plastic ones. I'll take a nice figured walnut stock over plastic any day, but I find that wooden stocked Tikkas have very plain wood on them.
I don't think plastic was ever meant to cut costs over wood.....fibreglass perhaps. There's a whole lot of us out here that really don't have much use for wood stocked guns. Plastic is an economical alternative to other composite stocks and from what I've seen, performs very well under some extreme conditions. People just need to quit trying to turn the Tikka into something it isn't and either be happy with what it is or ignore it. It's not going away despite the fact how many of you drone on what a poor plastic gun it is. It does everything a good hunting gun does at a fair price.
Funny people seem to accept the A7 though....just cause it has a Sako name on it despite the fact that it has the identical plastic parts as the Tikka, including the stock.
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I'll be the first to say I was a bit doubtful about the durability of my first T3 when I unpacked it, but after 3 years of use, hiking , quadding, dragged in and out of the truck, there hasn't been a problem...its nice to carry ( 7lbs scoped ), superbly accurate and utterly dependable....thats all I need.
Brand new it cost me less than $500, a bargain 3 yrs. ago.
Brand new it cost me less than $500, a bargain 3 yrs. ago.
Well, I for one would buy the Tikka before I bought an A7, as it doesn't add enough features to warrant the 40% price jump.
And there is more than one member on here that has had there bolt shroud crack or fall off. Haven't heard of any triggerguard failures though. Stoeger will supply the new bolt shrouds, so you can throw a couple in the knapsack.
You preach up the T3, yet you buy a Kimber to go to Africa, which tells what you really think of it.
So you're a mind reader now? Truthfully I don't even own a Tikka. Shocking I know that someone on CGN could like a gun they don't own rather than slagging it but I like to keep an open mind. I also bought a T/C, Sako and am looking at a McMillan but that doesn't mean I'm so closed minded as to think all others are crap. I don't own a single Remington......what does your crystal ball say about that? To me it says I don't own one but I still think they make some decent rifles but I'm sure you'll invent something else.
Just to put your mind at ease, however, I did buy bouhuntress a Tikka to take to Africa and she said I could use it if I don't have enough confidence in the Kimber.
I'd be careful talking about things breaking on guns and quality control.....Remington's reputation is far from untarnished. Maybe stick to telling me what you think and not what I think because obviously you don't have a clue. I'm definitely not preaching anything.....just telling as it is because some of you can't fathom liking a rifle that's not in your safe. I like to be a bit more open minded and offer information based on an unbiased opinion...not the "I own it so it's best" mentality.
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I'm sure a factor in whether a newer design like the T3 ever sells as many as an older design like the Rem 700 is that todays design and manufacturing processes probably allow designs to be introduced and changed far more frequently. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, probably ruled the old designs, whereas today if a marketing advantage can be had by introducing a new model after only a couple of years of production, they probably take the marketing advantage.
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Ya, I hear that the mountain hunting in Ontario can be pretty brutal.....
So what's Remington's excuse?
Ya, I hear that the mountain hunting in Ontario can be pretty brutal.....
That's my point. I'm not climbing mountains everyday, so an extra 3-4ounces for metal parts is not a big deal. And I'd pay the extra $$ to have them. But, unlike Remingtons, you can't buy aftermarket for a T3...
Both me friend and I have T3's and we hunt together all the time, in wonderful BC weather.
We are polar opposites, I look after mine, clean and mantain it fanatically, can't get the service out of the blood it seems.
He treats it like a baseball bat, leaves it wet and dirty, bangs it, it horrifies me.
Neither have failed.
We are polar opposites, I look after mine, clean and mantain it fanatically, can't get the service out of the blood it seems.
He treats it like a baseball bat, leaves it wet and dirty, bangs it, it horrifies me.
Neither have failed.
Then buy a Remington and stop slagging the Tikkas.....they aren't made for use in Ontario anyhow!
I'd have a hard time hauling firewood in a volvo...Or a moose for that matter.
Not sure about Moose (whole), but I have seen pics of Mule Deer, and yes firewood in the back of a Volvo Wagon.
BTW once my Volvos oil pan bolt got knocked out by a large rock on a logging road resulting in an piston seizing, and I managed to limp several KM to a repair shop on the starter motor alone without any ill effects on the starter motor or the car which was up and running within a day or so. Try that with a GM or Chevy.
No need to buy Aftermarket for a Tikka, as it is made to shoot well right out of the box.
Planned obsolescence and marketing accessories for an incomplete rifle is a modern North American idea.
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The 700 is not a smooth slick machine. We used to call Jap cars Jap cans. GM is dying. The 700 just isnt a fine tuned machine. It is a solid platform for a custom gun. Nuttin else special about it at all. As for cheap plastic shiiit stocks there is nuttin special about a sps stock. Its cheap plastic crappola.When comparing a Sako to a 700 it really becomes a laughable comparison.
