Let's see some photos of your non-Chinese manufactured external hammer coach guns!
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Here are a couple options. I don't own either preferring hammerless sxs or a 14" pump if I want a shorter gun. If in the market the CZ would be my choice. It's more expensive but a better made gun.
http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=77
http://www.baikalcanada.com/shot_guns_43K.htm
FWIW, cowboy action shooting doesn't specify hammer guns just that the gun doesn't have an ejector.
http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=77
http://www.baikalcanada.com/shot_guns_43K.htm
FWIW, cowboy action shooting doesn't specify hammer guns just that the gun doesn't have an ejector.
Posted by Tyler on the photo zone. Any idea what make is that?
Stoeger hammerless Coach gun?
It seems much nicer than the Baikal for sure. Thanks. I am a big CZ/BRNO fan.
Is it commonly seen in Cowboy competition?
The CZ hasn't been out all that long so I don't believe it's common but I'm not expert on cowboy action. I've only checked out cowboy shooting peripherally and decided not to get into that game. From what I've observed at a couple of shoots, what you see most are older guns that have been chopped down, Stoegers or Winchester 1897s.
Ahsan Ahmed
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Had the Baikal, traded that off for the same thing but hammerless.....still kicking myself for it. I carry that as a backup for grouse in tight covers. Both versions are very well built and equipped with 20inch bbls. I hijacked the image below but mine could be it's twin.
Also looked at a CZ, very nice, but my gut feel is that the Baikal metal conditioning is superior. Would eventually like to acquire that CZ.....their QC apparently is getting better.
Also looked at a CZ, very nice, but my gut feel is that the Baikal metal conditioning is superior. Would eventually like to acquire that CZ.....their QC apparently is getting better.
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Ahsan Ahmed
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Yep.
A good choice for upland game with the right chokes.
Ahsan Ahmed
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Baikal/SPR used to offer the hammerless version in 20ga as well. Stoeger still does so. Straight stock would've been great. In the meantime, I shall make do with a Citori Upland Special with 24in bbls/English stock
. It is about four inches longer than my SPR220 coachgun.Not sure if factory production coachgun are available with different short bbl lengths - I note that the various makes are available with 20in bbls only including the CZ.....most likely balance would be the important determining factor.
The CZ hammer gun is 20" only. They used to have a hammerless version but it is no longer shown on their website. Between the two I prefer the hammerless. The 20" barrel length is about as short as I'd want so as to keep my foreward hand away from the muzzle.
I looked at a CZ hammer gun last year at a local store and considered buying it. It seemed quite wide in the frame but that is in comparison to my sxs which is a 12 gauge built on a 16 gauge frame. In the hands, the CZ felt back heavy so I'd anticipate drilling a lot of wood out of the stock to move the balance point forward.
Posted by Tyler on the photo zone. Any idea what make is that?
That does look like a steoger. I sold that exact gun only with an english stock to "Ardent" a couple months back. I beleive he is selling it again. Beautiful gun, much nicer than the norc I sold to buy that one.
I hunt ruffed grouse, spruce hens and and blues in medium to heavy bush without a dog
. Most of my flushes are close (20 yards or less) and medium (20 - 40 yards) range with a heavy emphasis on close and unexpected I'd go with the 20" straight stocked 16 gauge (just like my Dad had before he got married) with #6 shot and I/C & modified chokes.
