Long Distance Hunting Rifles

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Looking at buying a new rifle to reach out and touch somethig.I have been looking at the sendero in 300 rum and the Weatherby accumark in 30-378 just wonder what outhers would think about these and outhers:
 
How far do you want to go? You're probably better to go with something in the 338 RUM/Edge/Lapua class to take advantage of the 300gr pills you can get in 338. They seem to be the LRH bullet weight of choice. The 300 RUM is a whole lot of noise for a minimal gain in velocity over what you can get with a well built 300 Win. You can just about duplicate 300 RUM ballistics out of a long tubed custom rifle in 300 WM and do it burning 25% less powder and will less recoil. Sure it costs more in initial outlay, but you're talkign about hunting at extended ranges...the extra accuracy you get from a custom is money well spent, IMHO. Plus getting 100 shots per pound of powder with the WM beats 70 with the RUM hands down.
 
Don't get too hung up on the monster 30 calibers...The 300 Win is all you need...You could even go with a 7 mag if deer is your main quest. The Sendero or a heavy barrel Savage are good places to start. The Accumark is OK, but you need to have enough money left over to buy a quality scope.

The scope is just as important if not more important than the rifle...It must have a ruggedly repeatable method of adjusting for trajectory.

What sort of range are you talking about?
 
Remington!!! but take a look at 7mm Ultra some flat shooting rig with 180gr VLD Bergers.shoot out a long long way.
manitou
 
Because long-range hunting (I assume big game) is the criteria rather than varminting or punching paper, I suggest you choose a medium bore with heavy bullets. Naturally this all depends upon your definition of long range, but if your idea is something that resembles a half mile, your cartridge must produce sufficient velocity at impact to ensure that the bullet functions. If the bullet is going to be tough enough to hold together in the event of a close range shot, at your longest range it had better have about 2000 fps to ensure that it functions. This requires a large capacity cartridge like the .338 Lapua.
 
I,m shooting a 308 norma mag and have been for 20 years and I shoot out to 600 to 700 on a regular bases. I'm just looking at the 1000 yard range.
 
300 Winchester is all you need for 1000 yards. Sure, more horsepower is nice, but not at all necessary (or advantageous). The 300 RUM and 30-378 WBY are really too much of a good thing.
 
Lots of 30 cal action here.
7mm Rem Mag or WSM is a great 1000 yard performer too and is worthy of mention. A lot less recoil and much cheaper to shoot. The ballistics on the 7mm are better than 30 cals with most bullets so you have less drag creating more energy at the long distances.

I would recommend something a bit more pleasant to shoot if you are just starting out.
 
You may find these articles I have written for another website of use.

http://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/long-range-rig.php
http://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/setting-up-scope.php
http://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/setting-up-scope.php

And there are more in the works.

If you visit the forum section, EVERYTHING you could possibly want to know about LR hunting is discussed by those that participate in this sport.

It can be a most exciting and challenging form of hunting. Definitely not without its costs.

Enjoy the articles and enjoy the journey.

Jerry
 
All the ethics stuff about extreme range hunting has been said before, but I'll just chime in here.

1000 yards is a hell of a long way. I've shot competetively against the very best in the world at that range, and I can tell you that it is not a joke. Without a doubt, you can hit an animal in the heart at that range with a tricked-out rifle, a huge amount of skill, and the conditions in your favour. But the odds are against making a one-shot kill like that in a hunting situation, where you don't have a series of range flags and a spotting scope set to the right focus to catch the mirage.

If you're serious about taking a large animal at 1,000, I'd choose the .300 Winchester as a reasonable minimum. With a 180 or 200-grain Accubond and a stout load, it'll have the horsepower to drop even a moose at that range. One of the Ultramags or the Lapua would offer more power, for sure. But at this range, NOTHING is more important than accuracy. Above all else, you must have a rifle that is capable of consistently shooting groups that are LESS than 1/2 m.o.a. Remember, at 1,000 yards, 1/2 m.o.a. translates into five inches. Even world-class shooters are lucky if they can hit the x-ring half the time at 1,000, and the x-ring at 1,000 yards is about 10 inches in diameter.

This is just some food for thought.
 
You want to kill game at 1000 yards?

I would never pretend to lecture someone on the ethics of long range hunting, yet you want to shoot game at 1000yards but are unsure what sort of cartridge to use?

You mentioned you have extensive experience shooting at 6-700yards with a 300mag....This is good.
Did you know that in moving out from 600 to 1000 yards your correction values will change by a factor of four (almost)?
Hitting a 10 inch gong from a field position on the first shot at 1000 yards can be done, but the difficulty (and occasional frustration) of doing so must be experienced to be appreciated.

I would suggest a more realistic maximum hunting distance until you send some more rounds down range.

The fast 338s loaded with the 300gr Sierra are only eclipsed by the 50 BMG. Your 308 Norma should make a fine practice rifle.
 
I have recently discussed long range hunting scopes with a fellow who has done a lot of testing and comparison and actually hunts this way in the Yukon. He has found that for a LR hunting scope the Huskemaw was better than any of the big names, ie Leupold, Nightforce, Bushnell, he tested. The range turret is custom made to your specs. Remember that the cartridge doesn't matter if you can't hit the target. Do a search to find them on the web. We can bring these into Canada if anyone is interested.
 
Try .300RUM with heavy pill, like 200grain or even 220grain.
You should be good upto and pass 1000m out of Sendero.
 
Ian Robertson said:
I have recently discussed long range hunting scopes with a fellow who has done a lot of testing and comparison and actually hunts this way in the Yukon. He has found that for a LR hunting scope the Huskemaw was better than any of the big names, ie Leupold, Nightforce, Bushnell, he tested. The range turret is custom made to your specs. Remember that the cartridge doesn't matter if you can't hit the target. Do a search to find them on the web. We can bring these into Canada if anyone is interested.
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Ian,
I searched the web on these scopes as I had never heard of them. I am not seeing much good being said about them on the forums, by people who bought them. These things are over a 1000.00 and guys are comparing the glass on them to $200 scopes (and getting 8 inch groups) on guns that are 1/4 MOA with the scopes that have been heard of.
When you can buy a long range Leupold for the same money and have warranty right here in Canada it makes no sense to go with an unknown.
Yes I am admittedly a bit biased towards Leupold, but being that I see guys get 40 year old scopes repaired or replaced free of charge on a regular basis, I think that is understandable.
 
Tony Gauthier said:
Ian,
I searched the web on these scopes as I had never heard of them. I am not seeing much good being said about them on the forums, by people who bought them. These things are over a 1000.00 and guys are comparing the glass on them to $200 scopes (and getting 8 inch groups) on guns that are 1/4 MOA with the scopes that have been heard of.
When you can buy a long range Leupold for the same money and have warranty right here in Canada it makes no sense to go with an unknown.
Yes I am admittedly a bit biased towards Leupold, but being that I see guys get 40 year old scopes repaired or replaced free of charge on a regular basis, I think that is understandable.
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I have a few clients who have purchased Huskemaw scopes and are trying to dump them to purchase the NF scopes that were originally suggested, for exactly the reasons Tony posted.
There is little info available on where these scopes are made and what the specs are. They are pretty heavily pumped by a TV show that is contrversial to say the least.
 
huskemawwww

The custom knobs for the huskemaw, well, I do believe that Kenton Industries makes custom knobs for NXS, burris, leupold etc...... U can send in for what you want, and they have a bunch of different options.....
 
bradtothebone said:
The custom knobs for the huskemaw, well, I do believe that Kenton Industries makes custom knobs for NXS, burris, leupold etc...... U can send in for what you want, and they have a bunch of different options.....
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Leupold Canada will be able to do custom knobs as soon as the engraver is loaded with the proper software etc. Probably by spring.
 
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