dominion arms backpacker short review

:onCrack:Yes, I know what you mean! Every time I read about someone parting with hard earned money and then the product falls apart the very first time
I WANT ONE:onCrack:

what could be more fun than getting a new firearm that costs as much as a tank of gas did 6 months ago, and seeing if it completely falls apart the first time you take a shot?

at worst, canam takes it back, at best, it works as expected. (ok at worst It explodes in my face, I lose my hands and my sight, but I choose to ignore that option)
 
It is one thing to put together a pump gun but a sxs is a more challenging prospect. No matter who makes it the quality of the gun is directly related to the skill, experience and time spent on each gun. That's why the good sxs and o/u cost more and the cheapest usually leave the owners disappointed.

Even something as simple as a forend latch seems to be beyond the Chinese manufacturers.

This thread was about the "back packer" the single shot version of the "outlaw". I can't wait till the double problems start floating in. I posted forearm problems with the jw2000 (which is the same as the outlaw) ages ago and I was called a "Fudd" and an "elitist". There is no such thing as a cheap sxs.
 
Gotta ask why you'd buy a Norinco double barrel when for the same price you could get a 12.5" Dominion Arms pump? 5 shots vs 2, and I would hope a better quality of manufacture, and a safety. How does the safety work on an external hammer shotgun, anyway?
 
Well, I guess if Canada Ammo is willing to replace defective product in quick order and one does not go broke with shipping charges back and forth and one is willing to accept less than expected.......

What a great country we live in! We have come to expect less, and we certainly get less and many even defend the right to get less. I can only conclude that those who buy into this, deserve less.
 
Gotta ask why you'd buy a Norinco double barrel when for the same price you could get a 12.5" Dominion Arms pump? 5 shots vs 2, and I would hope a better quality of manufacture, and a safety. How does the safety work on an external hammer shotgun, anyway?

Why not get a SXS, you ever meet a rabbit or zombie that took more than two shots?
I got mine to slap a bayo on, a flashlight on, and maybe a full length picatinny rail with BUIS off an AR on, not to mention an AR style grip adapter, or conversely to have fun with and just to piss of the old fudds here. :nest:

The sliding safety works by engaging the tops of the triggers, blocking them from being pulled accidentally. However, since when the hammer is in the down position it cannot move forward onto the firing pin without the trigger being pulled it is somewhat superfluous. I would preffer just cocking the guns hammers prior to shooting rather than cocking them, then engaging a safety and walking around with that on. Not sure what prompted the second safety, other than lawyers I guess...:confused:
 
Don't ya know the that the outlaw way out cools the pump and is badder than bad assed and there is some orgasmic like joy that comes from blowing both barrels from your stubbie:D

:p


....and Covey takes the lead!:dancingbanana:

Here are some latch pictures.....mine seems to mate up pretty well but I have not test fired it yet!

The piece that mates against the receiver is well fitted for length and there is no play between it and the latch stud on the barrel.


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If one were to use a full length picatinny rail it might be prudent to install two to deal with the each barrel shooting in a different direction thing.
 
The sliding safety works by engaging the tops of the triggers, blocking them from being pulled accidentally. However, since when the hammer is in the down position it cannot move forward onto the firing pin without the trigger being pulled it is somewhat superfluous. I would preffer just cocking the guns hammers prior to shooting rather than cocking them, then engaging a safety and walking around with that on. Not sure what prompted the second safety, other than lawyers I guess...:confused:

Has anyone determined what position the pins are in when the breach is closed and the hammers are down? Maybe when hammers are down and gun is loaded, the gun is not really safe? Just asking:D
 
Has anyone determined what position the pins are in when the breach is closed and the hammers are down? Maybe when hammers are down and gun is loaded, the gun is not really safe? Just asking:D


.....and Covey may have lost the lead folks..:redface:.....stay tuned!....:runaway:
 
you know what's really funny, the 2 biggest posters in this thread don't actually own the gun the thread is based off of, they just like coming here to complain:(

perhaps cgn just needs a whine and cheese section:p

after looking at can-down's pics, i think my lever tab doesn't grip as much surface area of the barrel tab as his does, perhaps thats my problem.
 
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Has anyone determined what position the pins are in when the breach is closed and the hammers are down? Maybe when hammers are down and gun is loaded, the gun is not really safe? Just asking:D

Do you have no faith in your fellow CGN members?:nest:

The firing pins are spring returned, they are clear of the primer, the hammer stays proud of them, unless you pull the trigger, at which stage the hammer could hit the firing pin.

(hmmm, some of the posts in here remind me of this kid from Kootenay...what was his name again :D):feedTroll:
 
you know what's really funny, the 2 biggest posters in this thread don't actually own the gun the thread is based off of, they just like coming here to complain:(
No what's really funny is the silence from the guys who were slobbering all over these guns. Slobbering that is until the guns arrived and the reports started coming in of high POI, guns not cocking, awful trigger pulls, divergent patterns, rough chambers, flying forends, etc.

Their silence speaks volumes and if you listen very closely the swooshing sounds you hear are the crows coming in to roost.
 
you know what's really funny, the 2 biggest posters in this thread don't actually own the gun the thread is based off of, they just like coming here to complain:(

You know what is really funny? This thread and the other threads about these guns were started by actual complaints about these guns and by persons who noticed the poor quality. None of these threads were started by those you label as complainers. The fact is these guns have just hit the range after a long talked about pants wetting wait, and as reported a few have not made it out of the starting gate. Much to do about nothing:(
 
Do you have no faith in your fellow CGN members?:nest:

I have faith in many things, but blanket faith in CGN members? No!

The firing pins are spring returned, they are clear of the primer, the hammer stays proud of them, unless you pull the trigger, at which stage the hammer could hit the firing pin.

As you see in my post, that triggered this response in relation to the safety, I was just asking. Quality seems to be an issue all round, and the proud hammer thing is a legitimate question.

(hmmm, some of the posts in here remind me of this kid from Kootenay...what was his name again :D):feedTroll:

This is a typical response to anyone who dares to challenge the drooling masses. These threads would be nothing more than a bunch of self licking popsicles if argument was just restricted to the oooh...awwwwwh, :jerkit: crowd who congratulated each other on their orders even before one gun arrived.
 
:p


....and Covey takes the lead!:dancingbanana:

Here are some latch pictures.....mine seems to mate up pretty well but I have not test fired it yet!

The piece that mates against the receiver is well fitted for length and there is no play between it and the latch stud on the barrel.


BPLatch3.jpg


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BPlatch2.jpg

Good pics. Unlike the forearms on the old Cooeys they put the locking surface on the front of the barrel lug. DOH! Instead of having the direction of recoil pushing the latch tighter a-la Cooey, this one has the latch playing catch-up to the barrel lug during recoil. Right? The barrel absorbs the initial energy and moves to the rear. The latch, because of inertia, opens a slight bit by overcoming the crappy flat spring.

Solution: install a good coil-spring that pushes harder on the latch/barrel lug engagemant. You could drill a small hole in the back of the latch and tap in a spring pin or rollpin. Do the same just below the screw where it slopes. Compress a good coil spring and let it expand onto the pins at each end. Now you have a tighter latch less prone to failure due to inertia.
 
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