What Ross Barrel is this?

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Talquin

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hey guys. picked up a Ross barrel a while ago and found out despite it having a 1905 receiver the barrel doesn't fit my sporterized ross stock. now i do realize that there are many types of Ross rifles so im hoping you guys can help me with what i have.

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Could be from a II** which used a 1905 receiver but had a heavier barrel than the oother MkII (1905) Rosses.
 
bushwhacker said:
How long is the barrel? If the rear sight wasn't missing that would be helpful.
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I think it's a Mk II**. They had a heavy thicker thread and I've heard are much harder to remove the barrel from the action than the lighter Mk II barrels were.
See the threaded holes in the receiver, probably had the sight bridge on there.
 
Those threaded holes are on the underside of the receiver and they receive the twin front screws of the blind magazine triggerguard/floorplate.
Now, that barrel looks a bit heavier than a standard 1905 Ross.
How's the bore? look at the rifling, maybe it could give you a hint about that barrel's life. Possibly it is a sporter.
Any traces of a front sight? Maybe it was retrofitted with a heavy profile barrel later on.
If the barrel is good, you could try fitting the action in a stock and make a one-of-a-kind sporter with it.
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Well I know the barrel is tight. A bit shiney. Barrel isn't cut at all. I have this and a sporterized mark 2 with a shot out barrel. I'm wanting to just sell both but I want to make sure I'm selling the right thing.
 
If the barrel is 30.5" long with a receiver mounted rear sight, according to "Sir Charles Ross and his Rifle" Pg.14/15, that would make it the model MkII** that was the winner of the 1909 service rifle matches. All the other MkII shown have barrel mounted sights except the Trial Carbine which has a 26" barrel. Too bad if you can't find the right wood for it.
 
Talquin- As I recall this receiver is bent? And the other one has a shot out barrel and a Bubbaed in dovetail sight installed on the receiver Knox form?

Unfortunately the two barrels having different threads means they won't interchange. The two systems are not compatible, plus...there are absolutely no parts available to assemble either of these into complete rifles. No stocks, no anything else either.

If the MkII** barrel is actually really good as in shiny, bright, deep rifling, no pitting or frosting, you could sell it as a good MkII** barrel...if someone has a complete rifle with a dark bore it might go that way.

People will want a precise tape measure measurement of the barrel length (not guesswork) and a precise description of the bore quality.
 
I was only talking about the Barrel, the receiver is a written off. it's not worth me seperating the two.

I just want to dissasemble sporterized on and part it off. like I said I needed to know exactly what Barrel I had.
 
Talquin said:
I was only talking about the Barrel, the receiver is a written off. it's not worth me seperating the two.

I just want to dissasemble sporterized on and part it off. like I said I needed to know exactly what Barrel I had.
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No problem, that's understood. But, you still haven't taken a tape measure to the barrel and given the figure and still haven't accurately described the quality of the bore. Without those two things nobody can tell you a thing.
 
Np. I'll post that tonight . Is using a 303 bullet ass end up a easy way to show how tight a barrel is? i don't have a micrometer.
 
If your barrel is still 30 1/2", it started life as a MkII**, either Military or Commercial.-Commercial will have a serial on the left side. If it's shorter and desn't look chopped, most likely it came from a Commercial 1905-E Sporter. These are relatively scarce, and were stocked just like the .280 Scotch deerstalker. The 1905-E was offered in both .303 and .35 wcf.
 
Addendum:- I looked at your pictures again, and saw the four drilled and tapped holes in the receiver rails. These were found (close-coupled) on the early Commercials, and fit the first style receiver bridges, that took any sight that fit Enfield centers. Usually, they're found with either the BSA-Martin or VSM-Peddie sight pinned on. Later Commercials used first, stamped from sheet, and later, milled from solid bridges with ears to accept stripper clips.
 
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