Little help identifying this gem pls

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Just went down to visit the inlaws, and my wifes grandfather handed me over his collection of firearms, which was quite the guesture in itself. But there was this one rifle in the collection that he wasn't sure what it was, and frankly neither am I.

He said that his father used to be a gun smith, and took his rifle from wwII, and converted it into something a little more friendly to hunt with, and I guess this is the final incarnation. Now he wasn't sure on the caliber, type, etc etc beyond the fact that it was a bolt rifle.

Here are a few pictures of all the markings I could find on the rifle, please let me know if anymore are needed, I'd be happy to take them.

Just mainly trying to figure out what type/caliber, maybe a little history on this. I don't think I'll ever be shooting it, but its just nice to know.

Thanks for any help


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Yay, another Enfield :)

You have a sporterized Lee Enfield No1 Mk3* rifle of (I think) late British manufacture (could the B on the butt socket be for BSA arsenal?)

Lou
 
Yes, I think that BSA continued to make the No 1 until about 1943, although the manufacture was slowed down and only finishing work was being done by then.
 
A #1mk3 made in 1940 in Britain?
I thought they had switched to the #4 before then?

I know in Australia they continued it until at least 1945.
 
Dispersal rifles.

Dispersal rifles are dated 1940 to 1944 dispersal rifles were assembled during WW2 to face the urgent demand of weapons using any available part such as spare parts or disassembled weapons. On the right side of the butt socket they do not have the manufacturer name but only a B (BSA)
 
Looks like another one of those Churchill, Parker Hale or BSA made sporters from surplus doesn't it?
 
Tbolt said:
A #1mk3 made in 1940 in Britain?
I thought they had switched to the #4 before then?

I know in Australia they continued it until at least 1945.
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The #4 was put into production in 1939, I think, but the #1 continued until enough #4's were in troops hands and in the pipeline.
 
Gibbs505 said:
Yes, I think that BSA continued to make the No 1 until about 1943, although the manufacture was slowed down and only finishing work was being done by then.
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It's a WW2 Dispersal rifle, assembled at BSA. It's been sporterized. Dispersals were made up until 1945, not 1943, and you often see 1943 and 1944 receivers with barrels dated 1945 as they were assembled later, often using many recycled parts from earlier made rifles that got scrapped due to damage, etc.

Looks to be beyond restoration, but would probably make a decent deer rifle.
 
Gibbs505 said:
The #4 was put into production in 1939, I think, but the #1 continued until enough #4's were in troops hands and in the pipeline.
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The No.4MkI came into production in 1941, not 1939. There were, howver, some No.1MkVI prototypes dated from the 1930's that were later rebuilt as No.4's.
 
Gibbs505 said:
Also production in India continued untill into the 60's for the #1 and in Pakistan for the #4!!
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The latest Ishapore .303 No.1Mk3* production year that I have personally seen (as in held the gun personally) is 1987. The latest one I've personally owned (in .303) was a 1962. I did have a 1964 No.2A1 though in 7.62 NATO.
 
wow, talk about ask and yee shall receive. Thanks alot guys for all the info, the barrel has holes filled where what looks like it used to be a rear ramp style sight, I think its beyond restoration as well, but will make a good conversation piece, thanks alot for all the info :)
 
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