50 BMG barrels in Canada... looks like some good news!

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We have not dotted all the "i's" and crossed all the "T's" but we will be importing Border Barrels out of the UK. These are the UK equivalent to Krieger. they are a superb cut-rifled barrel of the highest quality and superb consistency and accuracy. Anyone who has been to Bisley will know hat these fine barrels are capable of doing.

The best part of this is the fact that they produce 50 BMG barrels and we will be able to get them!

We are working on pricing as we speak, and I expect we will be able to start taking orders in about a month's time.
 
416 and 50 cal barrels are a restricted export. Believe me, I have tried this from every angle including spec'ing a "5150" (gratuitous Van Halen Rip-Off) barrel and they won't bite. Anything with a groove diameter of .500, für den export das ist verboten!

...and yes, we will be bringing in 416 barrels as well!
 
That is fantastic news. Nice to see a way of moving outside the box.

So far, I have had no issues with any cal UNDER 0.499" and can readily get 416, 44, 452 and 458.

You might want to check on that. PM me if you have questions.

As for cost, don't get your hopes up that costs will come down. you are now dealing with the Pound and Euro which our dollar is not well positioned against.

Then there is freight. I would not be surprised it if adds another $75 to 100 to each barrel cost. You can't send it by Royal Mail surface.

Unless Obtuned is planning on bringing them in by the container load.

Jerry
 
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The 416 Barrett is in the same class as 50 BMG and as such, the barrels that can be used on them are likewise resticted. If you can get them, good on you... they haven't figured that one out yet.

Brace yourselves: there are communications being thrown around from folks in the DCRA and BCRA via the e-mail telegraph, with a message attributed to the CSSA: Some of this info is old hat, but some is not. I am hearing nervous rumbings from the US regarding future export sales of AR barrels, M-14 barrels, and other restrictions of calibers. Nothing would surpise me anymore.

Anyway, here is the email I got thorugh the BCRA:

BCRA Email Members:

The following is a posting from the Canadian Shooting Sports Association's
Alert regarding what has the potential of being a serious problem for
Canadian firearm businesses trying to import ammunition and firearms into
Canada from the USA. If the Canadian gun dealers can't import US products,
Canadian hunters and target shooters will be frozen out of the market.

I have copied this email to our US shooters, who may want to remind their
Government members, that there will be more US jobs lost. There will also be
a drop in Canadians shooting in the USA if the export ban comes into effect
as we will not have ammo to compete with. It would appear that the US
Government can afford to be inward looking and be increasingly more
isolationist. We hope not as we cherish our ties with our American
competitors. Bob Pitcairn - BCRA Secretary

U.S. Export Crisis

We have it on good authority that the U.S. State Dept is cutting off all
Export Permits for certain calibers of ammunition, namely .50BMG, 7.62x39mm
Soviet, 7.62x51mm NATO, .308 Winchester, 5.56mm NATO and .223 Remington.
They may also expand the list to include 6.8mm SPC, 69mm Parabellum, .40 S&W
and .45 Automatic, amongst others.

As well, there may be blanket export bans on certain types of firearms and
DSP-83 End Use Certificates (with a $250 Export Fee) attached to all other
types.

Already, many firearms-related companies are refusing to ship product to
Canada because the U.S. required paperwork is simply too excessive to make
it profitable and a number of Canadian distributors have had U.S. Export
Permits refused for simple sporting arms in "prohibited" calibers.. Don't be
terribly surprised to see reloading components added to the list too!

It appears the anti-gun bureaucrats in the State Department have found a
kindred spirit in President-Elect Barack Obama and are revving up the jets
on us already. We have to emphasize that this information comes from a very
reliable source and has been independently confirmed but at present, it is
still being fought and the battle isn't over yet. Lots of us are working on
this and remember, this is US export only and does not affect EU imports.
Firearms and ammunition exported from Europe will be unaffected (at least so
far.)

We'll keep you informed as this unfolds. In the meantime, we suggest you
consider stocking up.

Canadian Shooting Sports Association
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Border makes excellent barrels. We have brought in barrels for 50bmg from Tru-Flite in New Zealand for several years, again, excellent. Have a look at what Geoff says about barrel break in on the Border web sit.

We all need to be looking at sources other than the USA because it will only get harder and harder. This is how they are approaching gun control and it will put some US companies out of business when they eventually cut off all sales to the rest of the world. On the other hand it will open up a lot of opportunity for others.
 
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Geoff has also given me permission to reproduce an excellent article he wrote for Precision Shooting Magazine some years ago, that describes in fantastic detail, the differences between cut rifled barrels and buttoned barrels. I think it is a good "Must Read" article for anyone considering a custom barrel. I am not sure I abide by his comments regarding Chromoly barrels, but then he is not referencing the same grade of CM steel used predominantly in North America.
 
Obtunded said:
Geoff has also given me permission to reproduce an excellent article he wrote for Precision Shooting Magazine some years ago, that describes in fantastic detail, the differences between cut rifled barrels and buttoned barrels. I think it is a good "Must Read" article for anyone considering a custom barrel. I am not sure I abide by his comments regarding Chromoly barrels, but then he is not referencing the same grade of CM steel used predominantly in North America.
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That is an excellent article... I noticed his comment about "breaking in" a barrel... "It is widely considered that stainless barrels will have a longer life and are more accurate than Chrome Moly barrels. If stainless barrels are "shot in" using the prescribed procedure, the barrel acquires a burnishing which almost eliminates fouling, so making stainless barrels very easy to clean." ... but I did not find the "prescribed procedure".
 
Look at the Border web site, like I said in a previous post. border-barrels.com/shoot-in.htm I have done this for a number of barrels of various makes. Painfully slow but it does work.
 
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I have a painfully slow method too Ian. I think any method of making it "clean" before firing another shot will be slow.
 
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