Some German stuff

[hnachaj]

I brought back from Germany some stuff from my uncle.
Here is a 1937 German Backpack:

I don't know anything about this backpack except, my grandfather owned it. I don't know what it is worth, either.

Here is a pre Nazi bayonnet:

How about a mint German mess tin:

I also have an original Russian Cold War gas mask:

Henry

 

[gallen270]

nice finds!

 

[TheTooner]

That mess tin design seems to have survived long after WWII.

Is the backpack a military issue item? What was the purpose of the fur?

 

[mbogo3]

Maker of the bayonet? Harold

 

[lister]

Is the backpack a military issue item? What was the purpose of the fur?

From what I've read---to make you smell really bad when wet.

 

[Claven2]

That bayo is not pre-nazi. It's dated 1942!

 

[hnachaj]

We can see the backpack is dated 1937. The reason for the fur? It might be regimental. My grandfather was a von from Prussia. He was a major landowner so he was an officer. He fought on the Eastern front. The bayonnet does not have a date. There are no Nazi markings. It has 1900 on one side and 42 plus something else on the other. The mess tin is in n.i.b. shape! I also have some strange boots that I will photograph tomorrow.

Henry

 

[Coyote Ugly]

The fur is Horse Hair, sometimes referred to or listed as Pony Back Packs.

No idea but maybe for use as a pillow as it is warm?

 

[Claven2]

It has 1900 on one side and 42 plus something else on the other.

Henry:

"42" means 1942. "fnj" is the manufacturer, it is a ww2 production code for "Alexander Coppel GmbH".

1900 is the serial number of the bayonet, not the year.

K98k bayonets had wooden grip up until 1941 or so. After that, makers began switching to bakelite grips, like on your bayonet.

Trust me. It's a 1942 bayonet, not "pre-nazi".

 

[Sigismund]

In case you dont trust Claven2 because of his shifty looks, I can concur with what he is saying.

 

[hnachaj]

I am ok with that. What is the backpack worth, today?
Have agreat day,
Henry

 

[hnachaj]

More German stuff from my gun room:

Grandfather's regiment

Water bottle and kit from the Russian Front

Another Kit bag from what era?

What is this?

Henry

 

[rchmontreal]

The last bag is for the Soviet SM-1 or East German SchM41M gas mask. The small pouch on the side is for the round tin, which contains anti fogging plastic lenses (which have yellowed and curled with age).

The bag is most likely for the NVA. Soviet bags were khaki or beige in colour. The wood dowels were used in the inner bottom of the bag to strengthen the bottom, and prevent crushing of the filter.

The water bottle and bread bag may also be early NVA. Check the aluminum cap for a possible date of production or manufacture code.

 

[Hitzy]

Someone didn't like the symbols on that German Army Belt.

 

[hnachaj]

The bag is Khaki and I have the Russian mask. My grandfather was a VON, and major landowner in Prussia. He did not care much for the Nazi! He probably made it a mission to keep it clean and rub off the Nazi sign. Where did you get yours and what is the history of the regiment?

Best regards,
Henry

 

[Hitzy]

The bag is Khaki and I have the Russian mask. My grandfather was a VON, and major landowner in Prussia. He did not care much for the Nazi! He probably made it a mission to keep it clean and rub off the Nazi sign. Where did you get yours and what is the history of the regiment?

Best regards,
Henry

It's just a standard issue German Army Belt as far as I know, given to us by a British fellow who acquired it during the war.

 

[hnachaj]

I will check it out on some US sites. There is some history!
Henry

 

[rchmontreal]

The M34 Tornister pack is worth about $120. The M31 mess tin will have a three letter code plus date (ie: SMM 41) by the top lid handle mount, and on the side by the wire handle mount if it is German 33-45 production. If not, then it is post war Nationale Volkes Armee or other Warsaw pact production.

The M31 water bottle will have the same three letter and date code, usually on the top cap and neck of the bottle. It is either NSDAP, SA or HJ issue.

The post war Soviet style respirator bag looks gray in the photos.

Post War German de-nazification laws required the removal of swastikas from public view. Many POW's removed the swastika while in captivity. Also defaced by Soviet soldiers when captured and reused.

I had a great uncle killed in Stalingrad and another served on the Eastern front in the cavalry on anti partisan operations. After 1945, everyone was "anti-nazi".......

 

[C96]

some more German stuff

Here you go,
Managed to dig up some of these.
Waffen SS Collar Tabs.
Probably not the correct forum and only for Historical purposes.

And no, there are no serial numbers on them

 

[ilovepotatos]

Wow. That is quite the impressive collection. I don't even want to know how much all those collar tabs are worth.