americans bringing in reloading components

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My neighbor is an american, and offered to bringing back a few reloading tools for me next time she comes back from below the 49th. can she legaly bring back reloading components, ie brass and bullets (projectiles) from the states to canada
 
Exporting is exporting no matter who does it.

Um... not really... I don't know about components, but as far as loaded ammo goes for US citizens...



22 C.F.R. § 123.16 Exemptions of general applicability.


(a) The following exemptions apply to exports of unclassified defense articles for which no approval is needed from the Directorate of Defense Trade Controls. These exemptions do not apply to: Proscribed destinations under §126.1 of this subchapter; exports for which Congressional notification is required (see §123.15 of this subchapter); MTCR articles; Significant Military Equipment (SME); and may not be used by persons who are generally ineligible as described in §120.1(c) of this subchapter. All shipments of defense articles, including those to and from Canada, require a Shipper's Export Declaration (SED) or notification letter. If the export of a defense article is exempt from licensing, the SED must cite the exemption. Refer to §123.22 for Shipper's Export Declaration and letter notification requirements.

(b) The following exports are exempt from the licensing requirements of this subchapter.

[...snip...]

(6) For exemptions for firearms and ammunition for personal use refer to §123.17.

22 C.F.R. § 123.17 Exports of firearms and ammunition.

[...snip...]

e) Port Directors of U.S. Customs and Border Protection shall permit U.S. persons to export without a license ammunition for nonautomatic firearms referred to in paragraph (a) of this section if the quantity does not exceed 1,000 cartridges (or rounds) in any shipment. The ammunition must also be for personal use and not for resale or other transfer of ownership. The foregoing exemption is also not applicable to the personnel referred to in §123.18 [members of the military have a separate exemption].

Definitions

[...snip...]

§ 120.15 U.S. person.

U.S. person means a person (as defined in §120.14 of this part) who is a lawful permanent resident as defined by 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(20) or who is a protected individual as defined by 8 U.S.C. 1324b(a)(3). It also means any corporation, business association, partnership, society, trust, or any other entity, organization or group that is incorporated to do business in the United States. It also includes any governmental (federal, state or local) entity. It does not include any foreign person as defined in §120.16 of this part.


8 U.S.C. 1324b(a)(3)

[...snip...]

(3) ``Protected individual'' defined

As used in paragraph (1), the term ``protected individual''
means an individual who--

(A) is a citizen or national of the United States, or
(B) is an alien who is lawfully admitted for permanent residence...

[...snip...]
 
Snip all you want, if the american does not take his unused ammo back across with him, he will have exported it.
 
Snip all you want, if the american does not take his unused ammo back across with him, he will have exported it.

You're correct, and wrong at the same time... Read it ALL again Joe...

...U.S. Customs and Border Protection shall permit U.S. persons to export without a license...

The "Protected Individual" doesn't have to be a US Resident, just a US Citizen (person)... and there's no language in the snipped out bits (or otherwise) that speaks to having to bring any unused portion of the ammunition back into the US... the exemption to the US export law as it applys here doesn't require residency in the US, just citizenship... and limits quantities, but only "per shipment"...
 
I think this is what makes it illegal.

Dudes... you're killing me... read the whole thing...! The quote you've taken is from part (a) of the subchapter... which is followed by... wait for it now... part (b), which reads...

(b) The following exports are exempt from the licensing requirements of this subchapter.

Part (a), is part of the subchapter that part (b) lists exemptions to...
 
I know that you Canadians are scary and all but this BS is too much! As an American it disgusts me that "my" government has sunken so low as this... I know you Canadians are scary people and all but all of these restrictions put upon both American citizens and visitors to our country is beyond ridiculous. :bangHead:

On a somewhat related note I've heard that Americans cannot just take non-citizen friends out shooting here in the USA, do any of you know if that is true?:confused:
 
I know that you Canadians are scary and all but this BS is too much! As an American it disgusts me that "my" government has sunken so low as this... I know you Canadians are scary people and all but all of these restrictions put upon both American citizens and visitors to our country is beyond ridiculous. :bangHead:

On a somewhat related note I've heard that Americans cannot just take non-citizen friends out shooting here in the USA, do any of you know if that is true?:confused:

I can't say for certain if that's true or not... but I know of Canadians shooting at legit "rent-a-gun" ranges in Nevada and Pennsylvania...
 
so with all the "snips" i got confused hehehe
I have a friend who lives just across the border from me and is really into m14 rifles. problem is he can't bring his usgi m14 to canada due to export controls and i can't take my norinco down there due to import controls....

I've built up a spare usgi-ized norinco m14 for him to shoot when he comes up here for visits.
So can he bring his own ammo without export liscencing?? would be a cool thing if he could.
 
Um... not really... I don't know about components, but as far as loaded ammo goes for US citizens...



22 C.F.R. § 123.16 Exemptions of general applicability.


(a) The following exemptions apply to exports of unclassified defense articles for which no approval is needed from the Directorate of Defense Trade Controls. These exemptions do not apply to: Proscribed destinations under §126.1 of this subchapter; exports for which Congressional notification is required (see §123.15 of this subchapter); MTCR articles; Significant Military Equipment (SME); and may not be used by persons who are generally ineligible as described in §120.1(c) of this subchapter. All shipments of defense articles, including those to and from Canada, require a Shipper's Export Declaration (SED) or notification letter. If the export of a defense article is exempt from licensing, the SED must cite the exemption. Refer to §123.22 for Shipper's Export Declaration and letter notification requirements.

(b) The following exports are exempt from the licensing requirements of this subchapter.

[...snip...]

(6) For exemptions for firearms and ammunition for personal use refer to §123.17.

22 C.F.R. § 123.17 Exports of firearms and ammunition.

[...snip...]

e) Port Directors of U.S. Customs and Border Protection shall permit U.S. persons to export without a license ammunition for nonautomatic firearms referred to in paragraph (a) of this section if the quantity does not exceed 1,000 cartridges (or rounds) in any shipment. The ammunition must also be for personal use and not for resale or other transfer of ownership. The foregoing exemption is also not applicable to the personnel referred to in §123.18 [members of the military have a separate exemption].

Definitions

[...snip...]

§ 120.15 U.S. person.

U.S. person means a person (as defined in §120.14 of this part) who is a lawful permanent resident as defined by 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(20) or who is a protected individual as defined by 8 U.S.C. 1324b(a)(3). It also means any corporation, business association, partnership, society, trust, or any other entity, organization or group that is incorporated to do business in the United States. It also includes any governmental (federal, state or local) entity. It does not include any foreign person as defined in §120.16 of this part.


8 U.S.C. 1324b(a)(3)

[...snip...]

(3) ``Protected individual'' defined

As used in paragraph (1), the term ``protected individual''
means an individual who--

(A) is a citizen or national of the United States, or
(B) is an alien who is lawfully admitted for permanent residence...

[...snip...]

I think you actually need to read what you post I high lighted the important piece you missed there Matlock
 
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so with all the "snips" i got confused hehehe
I have a friend who lives just across the border from me and is really into m14 rifles. problem is he can't bring his usgi m14 to canada due to export controls and i can't take my norinco down there due to import controls....

I've built up a spare usgi-ized norinco m14 for him to shoot when he comes up here for visits.
So can he bring his own ammo without export liscencing?? would be a cool thing if he could.

With regards to the ammo and export laws, yes, for his own personal use.
 
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