notsorichguy
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This will be my first revolver, I know a couple of guys at my club have some single sixes.... I'll see what I can work out... I am kinda curious too!!
Anyone buy a .22LR/Magnum from Kodiak Outpost?
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i'm looking forward to it...!
notsorichguy
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Woo Hoo
I stopped at the PO on the way home from work, Rushed in said "Hey" to the wife and rushed straight downstairs!!
I took ALOT of pics of this little unit. I really, and I mean REALLY like the feel and the weight of this fella. At first blush I think that Kodiak could easily have charged $350 to $400 for this unit. After holding it and handeling it I would have paid $400 and still thought I got a bargain.
The unit came in a nice cardboard box with formed fabric wraped foam around all the peices in the box.
I am Impressed with the unit overall. There are a few little things that do detract form the unit but they aren't noticable untill you really start to look at the piece closely. Firstly the ejector rod handle is plastic, mated to a steel pin that pushes out the spent cases. Second the "grip Screws" are actually a reccessed screw head on one side and a reccessed nut on the other. It doesn't affect the handeling of the firearm but it does take a little away from the look of it. Lastly the sights are a little rudimentary, just a straight blade in the front, and a "hollow" in the frame above the hammer. I think that this will make it harder to be accurate as there is no adjustment.
Dry firing this unit is not a problem as the saftey actually rotates a "bar" across the area where the hammer falls just below the firing pin, so dry fire away.
The safety itself is in a spot that is natural to the thumb if you are right handed, and very easy to trip on and off but out of the way enough that you don't have to worry about tripping it accidentally.
The cylinders change easily, half ####, push the release and pull the rod and the cylinder pops right out the side (no its not spring loaded) so I guess it doesn't "pop".
When ejecting shells just go to half ####, open the loading gate, and rotate the cylinder by hand as you operate the ejector rod.
Everyting on this unit is smooth, no rough edges, action and function are crisp and smooth as well. Trigger pull is 5lbs(ish) at full ####, action is single action so I feel that is normal.
I cannot wait to get out to the range... I hope its nice on Saturday or I'll have to wait untill Monday evening to go to the Indoor club.
If there is anyone out there who is on the fence about this little unit, I have to give it a 2 thumbs up, on inital quality and handeling. I will have to with hold judgment on performance after I go to the range on Saturday, Sunday or Monday (I won't have time till then). I would also Like to put a plug in for Kodiak Outpost, great communication, fast service, very easy to deal with and the price is the price..... no hidden fees, price included Shipping and Frikken around with the CFO. It was a joy to do business with them, I am going to keep them in mind for all my future purchases.
Here are some pics.... well ALOT of pics, I took about twice as many as this but I thought these would give you the best idea of everything that came.
Just to give you an idea this is what it looks like beside my M&P9
And beside my Buckmark
I stopped at the PO on the way home from work, Rushed in said "Hey" to the wife and rushed straight downstairs!!
I took ALOT of pics of this little unit. I really, and I mean REALLY like the feel and the weight of this fella. At first blush I think that Kodiak could easily have charged $350 to $400 for this unit. After holding it and handeling it I would have paid $400 and still thought I got a bargain.
The unit came in a nice cardboard box with formed fabric wraped foam around all the peices in the box.
I am Impressed with the unit overall. There are a few little things that do detract form the unit but they aren't noticable untill you really start to look at the piece closely. Firstly the ejector rod handle is plastic, mated to a steel pin that pushes out the spent cases. Second the "grip Screws" are actually a reccessed screw head on one side and a reccessed nut on the other. It doesn't affect the handeling of the firearm but it does take a little away from the look of it. Lastly the sights are a little rudimentary, just a straight blade in the front, and a "hollow" in the frame above the hammer. I think that this will make it harder to be accurate as there is no adjustment.
Dry firing this unit is not a problem as the saftey actually rotates a "bar" across the area where the hammer falls just below the firing pin, so dry fire away.
The safety itself is in a spot that is natural to the thumb if you are right handed, and very easy to trip on and off but out of the way enough that you don't have to worry about tripping it accidentally.
The cylinders change easily, half ####, push the release and pull the rod and the cylinder pops right out the side (no its not spring loaded) so I guess it doesn't "pop".
When ejecting shells just go to half ####, open the loading gate, and rotate the cylinder by hand as you operate the ejector rod.
Everyting on this unit is smooth, no rough edges, action and function are crisp and smooth as well. Trigger pull is 5lbs(ish) at full ####, action is single action so I feel that is normal.
I cannot wait to get out to the range... I hope its nice on Saturday or I'll have to wait untill Monday evening to go to the Indoor club.
If there is anyone out there who is on the fence about this little unit, I have to give it a 2 thumbs up, on inital quality and handeling. I will have to with hold judgment on performance after I go to the range on Saturday, Sunday or Monday (I won't have time till then). I would also Like to put a plug in for Kodiak Outpost, great communication, fast service, very easy to deal with and the price is the price..... no hidden fees, price included Shipping and Frikken around with the CFO. It was a joy to do business with them, I am going to keep them in mind for all my future purchases.
Here are some pics.... well ALOT of pics, I took about twice as many as this but I thought these would give you the best idea of everything that came.
Just to give you an idea this is what it looks like beside my M&P9
And beside my Buckmark
notsorichguy
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lol!
I'm Holding it right now!!
I'm Holding it right now!!
Nice grips. I had an H&S SAA type .22 at one time, and enjoyed it while I had it.
Loading and unloading got old real fast, and POI was 12" to the left with the .22mag cylinder so I rarely used it. Plus the cost of .22mag didn't really justify shooting it over .22lr. If we could hunt stuff with them the .22mag cylinder would have come in handdy.
Loading and unloading got old real fast, and POI was 12" to the left with the .22mag cylinder so I rarely used it. Plus the cost of .22mag didn't really justify shooting it over .22lr. If we could hunt stuff with them the .22mag cylinder would have come in handdy.
skeetgunner
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A safety? On a single action?
Other than that oddity, looks like a nice peice of kit! Might go thaw out the credit card....
Other than that oddity, looks like a nice peice of kit! Might go thaw out the credit card....
A safety? On a single action?
Other than that oddity, looks like a nice peice of kit! Might go thaw out the credit card....
i've seen a safety on a SA before, it was a range gun that i rented. oddly enough it was a single six. never seen one like it before, or since.
notsorichguy
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Well today after work (I had some time and I was just down the street) I went to the local gun store. They have 3 single 6's in stock. 2 are new and 1 used. I found that the sixes and my heritage look almost the same. right down to the saftey and the "grip screws". The first thing I noticed is that the ejector plunger is metal on the sixes, and the grips are held on the same way. I thought that it was a little "curious" that all of the screws are ALL in the same spots and the config of the sixes compared to my heritage is not noticably different. It looks like the cylinders are interchangeable but that will require a side by side comparrison with a micromitor to be certain. I felt the comparrison between the 2 was kind of like comparing a Colt .45 to a Springfield .45... the same but "different" some how. The grips on the sixes seem to be about 1/4" to 3/8" wider than the heritage, and didn't feel quite as comfortable in the fist. The more I look at the six compared to the heritage I find more simularities that differences..... I am starting to think that Heritage either bought Rugers design (under license of course) or have "borrowed" it. The simularities are amazing.
No range report yet, and I still haven't found some one who is going to let me compare his single six to my Heritage, but I am still hopeful. I asked the fellas at the gun store to let me "borrow" one of theirs but they said flat out NO. As I have to leave the premisis with the gun I understand, (the range is 20km out of the city after all). They did offer to sell me one of theirs, but when I suggested I may be returning it the same day they resinded the offer!! lol. The used six is priced at $400.00 and is on consignment, new ones are $600.00 ish.
Best case senario I find someone who is willing to bring his to the indoor range on club night and let me "fiddle" with his single six.
All in all I am becoming more impressed with my purchase every day. I am starting to get on the little womans nerves tho, all the clicking and cocking while we watch TV "Gee sweetie, am I annoying you?.. Well I do have to break in the action.."
More to follow I am sure!
No range report yet, and I still haven't found some one who is going to let me compare his single six to my Heritage, but I am still hopeful. I asked the fellas at the gun store to let me "borrow" one of theirs but they said flat out NO. As I have to leave the premisis with the gun I understand, (the range is 20km out of the city after all). They did offer to sell me one of theirs, but when I suggested I may be returning it the same day they resinded the offer!! lol. The used six is priced at $400.00 and is on consignment, new ones are $600.00 ish.
Best case senario I find someone who is willing to bring his to the indoor range on club night and let me "fiddle" with his single six.
All in all I am becoming more impressed with my purchase every day. I am starting to get on the little womans nerves tho, all the clicking and cocking while we watch TV
"Gee sweetie, am I annoying you?.. Well I do have to break in the action.."More to follow I am sure!
vagrantviking
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The first thing I noticed is that the ejector plunger is metal on the sixes, and the grips are held on the same way. I thought that it was a little "curious" that all of the screws are ALL in the same spots and the config of the sixes compared to my heritage is not noticably different. It looks like the cylinders are interchangeable but that will require a side by side comparrison with a micromitor to be certain. I felt the comparrison between the 2 was kind of like comparing a Colt .45 to a Springfield .45... the same but "different" some how. ...The more I look at the six compared to the heritage I find more simularities that differences..... I am starting to think that Heritage either bought Rugers design (under license of course) or have "borrowed" it. The simularities are amazing.
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Firstly, thanks for the review and pics. We look forward to hearing how it shoots for you too. Glad that you are so pleased with the Heritage and Congratulations. (I have my eye on the stainless model myself
Don't be surprised that the Single Six and the Heritage are very very similar. And Ruger certainly didn't invent it either. Go find a good pic of an original 1873 Colt and take a good look. Or even an 1858 Remington cap and ball revolver. The screws will be in the same places and the grips will probably have the same screws except maybe for some with one piece grips. The design hasn't changed much and I don't think it was ever really patented or if it was that ended a hundred years ago.
What gets me is the safety. I didn't know there was single action on the market with such a stupid modification. I guess though that it might have some limited use if it allows you to dryfire it.
As far as interchangable parts go that may or may not tell you much. I have two identical Rugers that you can't tell apart aside of the serial numbers and the cylinders can't be swapped. On the other hand there are reproduction revolvers made in Europe where nearly every part, spring or screw will swap over into a gun made 120 years earlier at a factory half a world away.
notsorichguy
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Hey all. I havn't had time to write this up so here it goes.
I had the Heritage Arms .22/.22mag SA Revolver out to the Indoor range on Monday night. It was very smooth, easy to use and fit well in the hand when firing. I first used the .22 cylinder and loading and unloading is quite a change from a pistol I'll tell ya, slower, and surprisingly calming to the nerves... a much more relaxing time than with my mag fed pistols. Shooting it is alot of fun and I think everybody who was out on Monday had a look at her.
I am a little dissapointed in the performance (accuracy wise) Our indoor is 17 yards, with my M&P I get 6 to 8" groups and with my Buckmark 8 to 10" groups.... but with this little unit I get 12 to 22" groups if I aim 12" high and 18" right.... I only had AE 38gr high velocity with me tho, so I am planning on trying some match and low vel. stuff next week to see if it makes a differance.
I tried the .22 mag cylinder, and man all you see when u squeeze the trigger is a great ball of flame!!!! lol What a blast when shooting that!! I wasn't able to get any kind of a grouping with the .22mag unfortunatly, out of 6 rnds aming the same as the .22 (high and right) I only had one rnd hit the paper in the bottom left.
I am not sure if I will make this guy a regular shooter but it sure is fun and calming to fire, so I may keep it around for awhile, but I think it is going to go into the "eventually trade ot get rid of pile" I am starting to think I shoulda purchased the one with adjustable sights... to get it close at least....
All in all I am not displeased with my purchase, its a lot of fun to shoot, a calming and relaxing experiance... It would only be better if it shot a little better.
I had a tough time getting my M&P to shoot well untill I tried the "Pistol shooters pie"
http://www.bullseyepistol.com/training.htm
and that really tightend up my groups.... I was thinking I would try to find something like that for Revolvers (if it exhists) because I am willing to take most or all of the blame for it not shooting well! Its happened before and probably will again!!
Enjoy!!! I did
I had the Heritage Arms .22/.22mag SA Revolver out to the Indoor range on Monday night. It was very smooth, easy to use and fit well in the hand when firing. I first used the .22 cylinder and loading and unloading is quite a change from a pistol I'll tell ya, slower, and surprisingly calming to the nerves... a much more relaxing time than with my mag fed pistols. Shooting it is alot of fun and I think everybody who was out on Monday had a look at her.
I am a little dissapointed in the performance (accuracy wise) Our indoor is 17 yards, with my M&P I get 6 to 8" groups and with my Buckmark 8 to 10" groups.... but with this little unit I get 12 to 22" groups if I aim 12" high and 18" right.... I only had AE 38gr high velocity with me tho, so I am planning on trying some match and low vel. stuff next week to see if it makes a differance.
I tried the .22 mag cylinder, and man all you see when u squeeze the trigger is a great ball of flame!!!! lol What a blast when shooting that!! I wasn't able to get any kind of a grouping with the .22mag unfortunatly, out of 6 rnds aming the same as the .22 (high and right) I only had one rnd hit the paper in the bottom left.
I am not sure if I will make this guy a regular shooter but it sure is fun and calming to fire, so I may keep it around for awhile, but I think it is going to go into the "eventually trade ot get rid of pile" I am starting to think I shoulda purchased the one with adjustable sights... to get it close at least....
All in all I am not displeased with my purchase, its a lot of fun to shoot, a calming and relaxing experiance... It would only be better if it shot a little better.
I had a tough time getting my M&P to shoot well untill I tried the "Pistol shooters pie"
http://www.bullseyepistol.com/training.htm
and that really tightend up my groups.... I was thinking I would try to find something like that for Revolvers (if it exhists) because I am willing to take most or all of the blame for it not shooting well! Its happened before and probably will again!!
Enjoy!!! I did
I had a .45colt Pietta SAA I couldn't shoot very well. Tried if off a rest to see if it was me or the gun.....25m the groups off the rest were one ragged hole. Not sure what it is, but I could never shoot it properly...one handed or 2, groups were all over the place.
