1909 Peruvian Mauser

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I'm not a Mauser expert, so I need a little help here. I have the possibility to purchase an excellent condition mint bore Peruvian Mauser. I haven't seen the rifle yet, but according to the discription by the owner, I believe it to be a 1909, complete with bayonet and still in 7.65X53 Argentine calibre. What would this rifle be worth if it is indeed this good of a condition?
 
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Assuming it's unissued with all the extras like the matching bayonet, issue sling, target, muzzle cover, etc. it would be a $800-900 gun or so.
 
I haven't even seen the rifle myself yet longbranch:redface: I'm just going by the owners discription over the phone. Owner lives out of town, but will be in town in a couple of weeks and will bring the rifle with him. Claims it is in good overall condition, with bright shiney bore and strong rifling. Peruvian crest is supposedly still intact. Slightly downgraded from my first impression of excellent condition, as that was third hand news, from a friend of a friend, and I have since spoken with the owner directly. Only one thing worries me about this gun and that is a stock repair at the butt. Seems there was a chip out of the butt that has been glued into place. He's going to try and get me a pic. Anyway, I believe I can get the rifle for the price of the bayonet;) Anyway, if I come into posession pics will follow.
 
As promised, a few pics gentlemen, as the beast has arrived. A couple of areas of concern, firstly the crack in the buttstock. Seems like the previous owner did a reasonable repair. Also an area of greater concern is a crack which has developed behind the reinforcing screw, passing through the mag well, and into the wrist past the tang. Any suggestions? I may open it up for now and try gluing it. I'm also missing the cleaning rod:( I'll have to locate one of those. Bore is pretty near mint:) and except for the bolt and bayonet, every single piece is serialed the same, even the mag floor plate and complete stock. The bolt is close though with last numbers 24 on everything and 27 on the bolt. The action and bolt are still in the white so I may give them a polishing as there is some surface rust on them Suggestions for the barrel and barrel bands? To blue or not to blue? Is the buttplate supposed to be in the white as well? It's quite rusty, I was going to give it a polish. Anyone know if that sling is original? Almost forgot, I did a chamber cast and she's still in 7.65 Mauser.

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Wow, I'd like to lay my hands on one of these some day. Yours isn't perfect but look at that craftsmanship. And I love the Mauser cartouche.
 
That is a great rifle. Shame about the repair but it looks better than some of the Arisaka butt stocks i have seen.
 
Clean-up complete

Well, I've cleaned up the beast. Looks pretty good for a 100 year old rifle. And I'll thank-you not to make fun of my homemade cleaning rod:redface:. Made it out of a 5/32 welding rod. I just had to put someting there til I find one, it's just not a Mauser without it. I glued the crack in the stock for now, I may try the brass screw method if it still doesen't settle down. Does anybody know if the sling it came with is an original, or just an old sporter?

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Very nice - thanks for sharing. I have one too, but it's not as nice, really a placeholder until I can find a better one. They don't show up in the condition typical of Brazilian M1908 and Argentine M1909, but they're every bit as well made, and the Lange Sight has "Art Deco" appeal.

Nice bayo too - a real pity the scabbard's missing. As for a cleaning rod, you'll find one eventually.
 
BTW, the 1909 Peruvian is an unusual rifle. It is made on an intermediate action with, I believe a standard firing pin. You can notice that the firing pin/cocking piece extends out of the bolt shroud more than a regular 98, both in the cocked and fired position. It also is the only military Mauser with the pear shaped bolt handle knob, as near as these elderly grey cells can recall.
One cold winter, I went nuts and made up about seven hundred 7,65's out of Rem .30/06 brass. Lots of work. PM me if you need a verbal hand.
 
One cold winter, I went nuts and made up about seven hundred 7,65's out of Rem .30/06 brass. Lots of work. PM me if you need a verbal hand.

Lots of work is right slug. Just had a brand new set of Lee 7.65 dies arrive in the mail today. Figured I'd try forming some 7.65 Mauser out of some of my 30-06 Springfield brass. Pre-trimmed the cases as they are grossly overlength, and proceeded to destroy my poor old Lee challenger o-frame press. Well with a few grunts and groans from the old doll, she spit me out what I thought was a beautiful piece of 7.65 Mauser brass. After a final case length trimming I decided to drop the empty brass in the 1909 chamber. The suprise came when I tried to close the bolt:eek: I only had one piece of real Mauser brass to compare it to. A single fired case from the shores of Gallipoli, given to me from a friend who's grandfather served in the Great One. The shoulders of my newly sized brass were at least a 1/16" more forward then the Gallipoli once fired brass. Lee 7.65 dies come with a #3 shell holder, fortunatly I had a spare. I took an old beat up shell holder and filed the top of it down as thin as I dared so that the sizeing die could push the shoulders further back. Luckily for me I was just able to close the bolt. Don't know what Lee was thinking leaving shoulders that far ahead. I tried that brass in both an '09 and '91 action and could not get either bolt to close.
 
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You'll like your 7.65 when you take it to the range, they are accurate, but shoot high as the sights lowest setting is about 250 yards. Absolutely nobody has heard of them either, so you'll get a a lot of comments. The front sight is drift punch adjustable. I have several other rifles, but the 7.65's are fast becoming my favorites. The precision metalwork alone is worth the price of buyin one.

I have an 1891 Argentine long rifle and an 1891 Peruvian carbine and they both shoot very well with Norma 150gr factory ammo. 2960fps.:)

If you get a box of Norma factory ammo then you can get a correct measurement of the cartridge. Although it's not cheap, about $40 a box.

I just bought a set of Lee 7.65 dies myself, but haven't tried to reform '06 or 8mm brass yet. I think I'll bite the bullet and buy some 7.65 Prvi Partisan brass.

Have fun with your new toy.
 
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