Tell me about my mauser? (pics)
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Coyote Ugly
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Coyote Ugly
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Bariballs,
http://claus.espeholt.dk/mediearkiv/waae.pdf
WaA214 is NOT a Unit, it is a code for the maker, Just as a K98 marked with WaA 135 or WaA655 was made at Oberndorf, Germany.
I hope you didn't get burnt by some BS story when you bought your rifle that 214 was a Unit Number.
If the rifle was Unit Marked, you would have to look at the takedown disk.
Wikipedia has so many errors in it, don't waste your time reading it as anyone can edit it-including yourself!
Get your facts straight before spreading BS, it only confuses the junior collectors.
http://claus.espeholt.dk/mediearkiv/waae.pdf
WaA214 is NOT a Unit, it is a code for the maker, Just as a K98 marked with WaA 135 or WaA655 was made at Oberndorf, Germany.
I hope you didn't get burnt by some BS story when you bought your rifle that 214 was a Unit Number.
If the rifle was Unit Marked, you would have to look at the takedown disk.
Wikipedia has so many errors in it, don't waste your time reading it as anyone can edit it-including yourself!
Get your facts straight before spreading BS, it only confuses the junior collectors.
Look at your link; As per you will find in reading the first page, it's not a manufacturer's code, it's an INSPECTION code, for approval, at different stages of the production.
The fireproofing did not have a number nor a letter (at that time, anyways) under the Eagle and was usually stamped on the left side of the receiver.
The manufacturer's code, on mine pictured above (wich you can't see because of the scope mount) is on top of the receiver and is 147 wich is J.P. Sauer & Son. The year of production is 1938, the matching inspection / approval stamps are ; 359 / 214 / 214.
Heretic stuff removed...
BTW, I never linked ANYTHING here to Wikipedia. But I have TONS of books.
The fireproofing did not have a number nor a letter (at that time, anyways) under the Eagle and was usually stamped on the left side of the receiver.
The manufacturer's code, on mine pictured above (wich you can't see because of the scope mount) is on top of the receiver and is 147 wich is J.P. Sauer & Son. The year of production is 1938, the matching inspection / approval stamps are ; 359 / 214 / 214.
Heretic stuff removed...
BTW, I never linked ANYTHING here to Wikipedia. But I have TONS of books.
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Coyote Ugly
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Bariballs,
The WaA tells where the gun was made and what factory. Not the Unit as in your Fantasies! You have no comprehension about #### Twist
, You are a Lost Cause. Give your Head a Shake! 
Achtung!!!, Unit 77 calling Bariballs, this is your Fuhrer speaking, come in you dummkopf...
The WaA tells where the gun was made and what factory. Not the Unit as in your Fantasies! You have no comprehension about #### Twist
, You are a Lost Cause. Give your Head a Shake! Achtung!!!, Unit 77 calling Bariballs, this is your Fuhrer speaking, come in you dummkopf...
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Coyote Ugly
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Your problem is you don't listen, at least 4 other people disagreed with your BS and lack of understanding and you still go on spewing rhetoric which you know nothing about.
I am gonna take one more run at this one!! Here is how it works:
Each factory is assigned a manufacturer code (byf, ar, S27, etc) for the rifles they produce. This is stamped on the top of the reciever.
The Abnahme (Army Acceptance Organization) created teams of inspectors who carried with them unique stamps (Waa 655 for one team, Waa359 for another, Waa 214, etc) to proof the rifles and it's components.
In regards to these inspection teams (or inspection units):
"The team's duty encompassed inspection of the entire production activity within the plant; not only final acceptance of the finished product, but all ongoing inspections of each individual part.
When a Waffenamt officer assumed command of an inspection team he received a commission number and a correspondingly numbered set of Abnahmestempel or acceptance stamps, commonly known as the Waffenamt Stamps. If the officer was transferred to another factory he took his stamps with him, but left the rest of the inspection team for the next officer."
The waffenampt stamp (Waa214) belongs to the inspection team, it has nothing to do with combat divisions or combat units. Waa214 team was at least 2 K98 factories through the prewar and war period.
Also, in the case of your rifle, Sauer made almost 200,000 Waa214 marked K98's during 1938. Does that sound like a reasonable number of K98's for use solely by 15,000 soldiers for one year in peacetime conditions?
Source:
http://www.lugerforum.com/Waffen-NS.htm
http://www.waffeninfo.net/waff_98k_05.php
Each factory is assigned a manufacturer code (byf, ar, S27, etc) for the rifles they produce. This is stamped on the top of the reciever.
The Abnahme (Army Acceptance Organization) created teams of inspectors who carried with them unique stamps (Waa 655 for one team, Waa359 for another, Waa 214, etc) to proof the rifles and it's components.
In regards to these inspection teams (or inspection units):
"The team's duty encompassed inspection of the entire production activity within the plant; not only final acceptance of the finished product, but all ongoing inspections of each individual part.
When a Waffenamt officer assumed command of an inspection team he received a commission number and a correspondingly numbered set of Abnahmestempel or acceptance stamps, commonly known as the Waffenamt Stamps. If the officer was transferred to another factory he took his stamps with him, but left the rest of the inspection team for the next officer."
The waffenampt stamp (Waa214) belongs to the inspection team, it has nothing to do with combat divisions or combat units. Waa214 team was at least 2 K98 factories through the prewar and war period.
Also, in the case of your rifle, Sauer made almost 200,000 Waa214 marked K98's during 1938. Does that sound like a reasonable number of K98's for use solely by 15,000 soldiers for one year in peacetime conditions?
Source:
http://www.lugerforum.com/Waffen-NS.htm
http://www.waffeninfo.net/waff_98k_05.php
Coyote Ugly
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I piss myself when these guys are sooo wrong, yet adamant they are sooo right!
It would be just like BARBIE-BALLS to MAKE A DUMB STATEMENT like- there was no Longbranch Factory in Canada and all those Enfields were made in Thailand, imagine the reaction that would get!
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Well, I'd sure like to know who "COMRRDE BUBBA" was, because if he did my '41 BNZ BOLT/FLOOR PLATE and BARREL BAND he did awesome job on it. I'd buy him a bottle for Russain priced Vodka for sure. That's why I seriously think it's an original bolt....The machining is just done so well. And I have not seen proof otherwise. I have never seen a K98K is such good shape....(yet)
Check out the electric pencil on my 41 BNZ. It's in 2 places, on the cocking peice, and on the safety. (Truly bubba!) If anyody else has Mauser pics, get them posted! This is quite the learning experience.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=312565
Great find PIG4000! Have you shot it yet? We need to get togather and have a "Mauser Day!"
Skippy 4000 seems to have the same style bolt numbers as my 98 does
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The thing about your rifle Dutchie, it was obviously an RC at one point (hence the X on the receiver), but it then made its way into the hands of the East Germans, and they were the ones to renumber your rifle. That is why your serials are matchign and stamped, rather than electropenciled.
the same answer you got in your original thread.
the same answer you got in your original thread.
