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I was reading the "outdoor Edge" magazine- It's done for various members of Western Wildldife Associations, fo ryou Eastern guys

One part of it is the "Wall of Fame" which shows readers with their photos of "trophy" pictures.

A reader wrote in to complain about the lack of respect shown to the dead animals. People sitting on animals, excessive blood, tongues hanging out etc.

I am a bit torn on the issue. I try to clean up animals for pics, but I also recognize that blood is part of hunting. I certainly have my share of gory pictures.

I've never seen the need to sit on a moose, but I'm not sure that I care if others do.

SO, I looked at some of the Wall of Fame pictures. I can see that some of them could have been done better, but these aren't pro photographers.

SHould we showcase non professional pictures that depicts hunting- warts and all- or should we sanitize it?
 
In that situation the wall of fame you take what you get. In an article, I say clean up the blood, tongue etc and be a pro about it. I don't get the sitting on the animal as disrespectful and some of the things said in the name of respecting a critter blow me away. I was doing a photo seminar once and I recommended cutting the tongue out for pictures. Well a couple of people took offence and went up one side of me and down the other about disrespecting the animal. About half way through their lecture I couldn't keep a straight face and more and started laughing, they were of course outraged and I apologized but couldn't quit grinning, you know how that happens? They demanded what was so funny and I explained that if they thought cutting the tongue out was bad how the heck were they going to gut the critter and still respect it in the morning!
 
Disrespecting? Did you dress your deer in a strap on and a pink tu-tu? No. I just shot it, here is a picture, now I am going to cut it into chunks and eat it. Shutup, I wasn't offering you any anyways. Is it barbaric? No. Does a bear disrespect a deer when it eats it? Then why do you think I am? If you don't like it, too bad, I don't come out with a protest sign when you guys are having your parade.

I hate hippies. I think I told you my answer.
 
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Disrespecting? Did you dress your deer in a strap on and a pink tu-tu? No. I just shot it, here is a picture, now I am going to cut it into chunks and eat it. Shutup, I wasn't offering you any anyways. Is it barbaric? No. Does a bear disrespect a deer when it eats it? Then why do you think I am? If you don't like it, too bad, I don't come out with a protest sign when you guys are having your parade.

I hate hippies. I think I told you my answer.
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Oh, you had to bring up the pink tu-tu, eh?

i swear if I ever met Bone Collector, I will kick him in the nuts and smash his photo shop computron:p:D
 
The moose is dead, I don't think it cares about some dumbass riding him afterwards.

I think the magazine should publish photo's that are at least partially tasteful to the masses.
 
I dont go out of my way to take a pic of blood boogers coming out of the noses of the deer/moose/etc, but some of those gory photos just are right.
 
Hmm, this is a bit like my old habit of not discussing firearms at work... I got sick of having to be politically correct... Now I don't hold back, EVERYONE at work knows I'm taking the turkey course this weekend... I guess I don't flaunt it, but I don't hide it either...

So, in drawing a parallel, I won't post pics of game I have harvested that I consider gross or exploitive, BUT, I do post pics... IF someone else finds them disrespectful, that's THEIR opinion.

Cheers
Jay
 
I think that you raise a really interesting question - one that I've thought about a bit. I really have no problem with the photos with damage due to bullets, blood leaking etc. It's a natural part of the sport. There's nothing wrong with tucking the tongue back in or cleaning up a bit, but other than that I think it's good. I have less interest in "posing" animals, sitting on them etc. I teach anatomy at a medical school and I have had some problems in the past with students doing what I consider disrespectful things to the cadavers. When I confront them with it, they'll often say "who cares, they're dead?" I generally blow a gasket at that, as I consider that the "previously living" deserve the same respect as their breathing counterparts. I've been with hunting buddies that have sat on their kill, etc. and it hasn't bothered me to the point that I'd say anything, but I probably wouldn't do it myself.
 
I think,

If you don't like looking at it " Then don't look at it" simple but don't complain about something that others do.

I don't like people in suits and ties but I don't write MaClains and tell city people to wear Lumber Jackets and Jeans or Camo :rolleyes:
 
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I don't think it's a matter of what one likes or doesn't like in regards to who's complaining about these photo's. I see it as our harvested animals deserve respect. Taking it's life, then sitting on it's back while you wear sunglasses, your hat too low and a cigarette hanging out of your mouth while you give the camara a goofy grin and a thumbs up doesn't portray respect. And that's not a picture you will be proud of either. I doubt you will show that one around at work and get any respect yourself from it. That's just one way folks decribe 'slob' hunters, and it tarnishes the reputation of all hunters. I will not sugercoat anything I do when I tell people I am a hunter, but when I do take pictures, I try to portray the beauty of the animal in it's surroundings that show the experiance, not neccesarily the kill. It's like a small celebration of life. I will not belittle anyone for doing what they do, I would however like to see cleaner pictures that offer the respect the animals deserve. :)
 
Pharaoh2, that is very well said. There is little I could add, except to point out that we are all ambassadors for our sport of hunting.
A lot of people on these threads resent that attitude, and think we can do as we like and thumb our noses at the public. But this will only cause us a lot of unneccessary grief, in the long run.
 
The same morons who sit on or jump on their dead animals are the same guys who have vacation photos of themselves trying to jam their cocks into european electrial outlets. We just happen to see their "hunting" photos as opposed to their "vacation" photo's
 
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Pharaoh2, that is very well said. There is little I could add, except to point out that we are all ambassadors for our sport of hunting.
A lot of people on these threads resent that attitude, and think we can do as we like and thumb our noses at the public. But this will only cause us a lot of unneccessary grief, in the long run.
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I agree. There are a handfull of hunters and a handfull of anti-hunters and then a whole lot of "on the fencers". We should always try to cultivate the approval of the "on the fencers". (educate them as to what kind of people we are and what it is we do)

Now a little blood is a reality. But a tounge sticking out and blood in exess is not nessasary and really easy to correct.

Some people are just not good at photography but I think every hunter and angler would benifit from a little pic taling instruction. They would surely enjoy looking at and showing off their success if it was well photographed.

Robin in Rocky
 
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I see NOTHING wrong or no difference between sitting on or beside an animal you just killed.

If people's delicate sensibilities are offended by someone sitting on the shoulders of a Bull Moose then it is time to put down your gun and take up knitting.

That being said....

What about people who adorn their walls with trophies of dead animals....? Is that not LIVING your life for show? It certainly isn't artwork?
 
I'm putting this guy on the wall as soon as I can only problem is I don't have a wall big enough... :eek:

No that's not me that is the taxidermist he's 6' 4" tall...

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