Surplus 9mm Ammo?

50calshooter said:
Ok since my question is so obviously out to left in your eyes, Could you elaborate?
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There is very little surplus ammo of any kind coming into Canada, and prior stock is long gone.

All ammo, domestic production, commercial reloads or imported, new or surplus, has to be "approved" by NRCAN (Natural Resources Canada, Explosives Division) That means the complete chemical composition of powder and primer has to be submitted along with production records. A tall order for most foreign "surplus"

Usually the only surplus you might find these days are some old batches at gun shows or from personal collections.
 
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Was the exact same post i was going to make. The cheapest I can find it for is from Wholesale or Cabelas. At bout .26c a round.
 
Wades in Bellevue had a sale on CDN 9mm surplus last year!

Let me know if you find any deals. I'm in for a few cases.
 
Keep in mind that "surplus" military 9mm is often subgun ammo, which is much hotter than regular commercial rounds. You don't want to shoot that stuff in your Glock, or any other pistol without full chamber support, unless you're prepared to be picking pieces of the barrel/slide out of your teeth.
 
capp325 said:
Keep in mind that "surplus" military 9mm is often subgun ammo, which is much hotter than regular commercial rounds. You don't want to shoot that stuff in your Glock, or any other pistol without full chamber support, unless you're prepared to be picking pieces of the barrel/slide out of your teeth.
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I was going to say something similar. I have a friend who got some surplus 9mm from a local guy. If it actually fired the first time (hard primers) it made one hell of a bang/muzzle flash. He shot it out of a Glock before he knew how hot it was. He's lucky he still has the gun/his hands
 
Where do all these myths come from...
For "subgun" read "NATO".
9mm Glocks are rated for the 9mm NATO rounds - ALL NATO 9mm rounds. Check the specs - the pressure rating is higher than +P+.
Unless you screw up during reloading, nothing you can buy commercially can damage the gun - 9mm NATO is not commonly available anyway.

In short: any commercially bought ammo is fine, any military ammo is fine. Reloads are fine - as long as you are careful, stick to the tables, and use proper bullets.

I've shot 25k+ rounds through my private G19 over the last 10 years, approx 10k of NATO, the rest - reloads with anything from 125-147gr lead - no issues, no FTF, no leading.
 
the last time i saw the "warning" was on a box of cil commercial ammo- they had 2 power levels - one esp for lugers and the other for everybody else- and that was a VERY long time ago- the REASON for the warning was for exactly that- some of the guns out there wouldn't take 9mm loaded to standard , now it's gotten to the point where most of the lower pressure guns are now museum/wallhangers and are too precious to shoot anyway- the reason for the " hotter" loading was to push the heavy bolt in the smg back far enough to engage the sear- since then we've progressed to the point where one round will serve both- however , i've found that rounds fired through the smg are NOT suitable for reloading as the unsupported head develops a "magnum type" ring of swelling just ahead of the extractor groove- i've proved this on both my uzi as well as a sterling i have access to
 
The other cheaper alternative is to get yourself a good progressive press, some components and reload yourself some home grown ammo with the one surplus still available to most of us - time.
 
Bullwhip said:
The other cheaper alternative is to get yourself a good progressive press, some components and reload yourself some home grown ammo with the one surplus still available to most of us - time.
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I was thinking about doing this but got to wondering... how money would you actually save.

I would be buying bullets, not making my own and i also have no reloading equipment whatsoever. My guess is that it would take quite a while for reloading to pay for itself. I could be wrong though as I don't know to much about it.
 
Savings

CTS said:
I was thinking about doing this but got to wondering... how money would you actually save.

I would be buying bullets, not making my own and i also have no reloading equipment whatsoever. My guess is that it would take quite a while for reloading to pay for itself. I could be wrong though as I don't know to much about it.
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Reloading will save about 40% of your ammo costs. If you fire only a few hundred a year, stay with factory. I figure I "paid off" a Dillon 650 in about 18 months.

A note on surplus ammo - some is berdan primed (two primer holes) and can't be reloaded in the usual manner.
 
1300_stainless said:
I was going to say something similar. I have a friend who got some surplus 9mm from a local guy. If it actually fired the first time (hard primers) it made one hell of a bang/muzzle flash. He shot it out of a Glock before he knew how hot it was. He's lucky he still has the gun/his hands
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Wow. I am sure glad that my Glock didn't blow up or go kaboom after the 2000 rounds we shot during the course, without cleaning...

Myth....
 
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