Winchester Model 70 Pre 64 Supergrade

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I have a pre 64 model 70 Supergrade.I bought this from the original owner.He bought it in 1949.It was a 300 H&H he sent it to the Weatherby factory and had it Chambered to 300 Weatherby.
As you can see in the pictures the stock has some marks on it.It had a piece added to the left side where there was a scope mount..
I am wondering if any body would have an idea what its worth.
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Who engraved the "1949" on the trigger guard?
Looks like a good shooter, collector value gone with the rechambering.
 
I figured the collector value would be gone.I also bought a pre 64 270 Win that he had rechambered to 270 Weatherby.He also has a pre 64 model 70 in 375 Weatherby it was an H&H.I am sure they would have been worth alot more if he had not rechambered them
 
in that shape, were it unmodified it would be north of $4k, maybe more.

as modified, with the re-finish, side mount, re-chamber, and engraving, it is a nice shooter, worth what someone will pay for it. Probably more than $1000, less than $2000.

If it were mine, I'd have it refinished to original specs (matte receiver/semi-gloss barrel, and oil finished stock, and recut checekring) and enjoy it.
 
If it hadn't been screwed with by rechambering it, drilling for the side mount and engraving the trigger guard it would be worth something. As it is it is only worth money as a shooter or as a donor action. $800 is the most a reasonable person would pay for it and even then you'd be ripping them off. Personally, I would only buy it to use as a donor and would only give you $500 for it. The 300 Wby is a serious WOFT as a cartridge.
 
The fact that it is an H&H length action would make the action valuble by itself, but those extra holes on the side would put me off it. If I owned it, I would be tempted just to replace the bbl with a stainless bbl in 375H&H and keep the cost down as much as possible.

$600-$800 topps.


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...It was a 300 H&H he sent it to the Weatherby factory and had it Chambered to 300 Weatherby....
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Too bad. Any "original" value is gone.

I'd say worth $600-800, as already stated, but you never know, someone might pay more.
 
BigUglyMan said:
If it hadn't been screwed with by rechambering it, drilling for the side mount and engraving the trigger guard it would be worth something. As it is it is only worth money as a shooter or as a donor action. $800 is the most a reasonable person would pay for it and even then you'd be ripping them off. Personally, I would only buy it to use as a donor and would only give you $500 for it. The 300 Wby is a serious WOFT as a cartridge.
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Opinions vary, yours is funny. Thats mine.:)
 
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Just out of idle curiosity, and since this thread is now about shooting the breeze (Lorne has the info he needed), I wonder if you might explain why you think the .300 Wby is not a good cartridge. I had two rifles in that chambering, and thought it was pretty good. Indeed, when one of my best buddies moved to the Yukon, I gave him a rifle chambered in .300 Wby.

Or were you just kiddin' around?

Doug
 
Doug said:
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Just out of idle curiosity, and since this thread is now about shooting the breeze (Lorne has the info he needed), I wonder if you might explain why you think the .300 Wby is not a good cartridge. I had two rifles in that chambering, and thought it was pretty good. Indeed, when one of my best buddies moved to the Yukon, I gave him a rifle chambered in .300 Wby.

Or were you just kiddin' around?

Doug
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Well... and this is all IMHO...

The premise of the 300 Wby is not flawed. More speed out of 180 and 200 grain bullets. That being said, you burn a bunch more powder to get a negligible increase in velocity. Now, for the rifle loony, increase is increase. Still, whether you get 2950 or 3050 out of your Partition, I doubt the moose, elk or grizz will know or care.

What I find more offensive about the Weatherbys is the price of brass and factory ammo. I realize that most guys are going to roll their own, but for the poor saps that don't you're looking at 30% more for a box of premium ammo. Ammo is pricey enough nowadays without tacking on a surcharge for the name on the base. Worse still, high ammo costs decreases the amount a guy will shoot which could lead to them not being an effective shot on game, which is the ultimate sin for a hunter (which most 300 WBY/Win/H&H are used for).

So it's pricier in the first place (usually since it's not something you find that much nowadays outside the Weatherby line), pricier to feed and doesn't really do anything better than the 300 Winchester. Given all the givens, you're well better served with the 300 Winchester, if you just have to have a 300 "Magnum".

Now that being said, I wouldn't disown my kid if he came home with one. I'd just mock him a little!
 
The trouble with 30cal cartridges is that between the 30/06 [non-magnum] and the 300WinMag [magnum] work so well at what they do that most other 30cals offer very little or no practical improvement over these two in the non-mag and mag categories.

Both are readily available in factory rifles and ammo and are easy on the pocket book.

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