338 Lapua Optics?

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I am buying a Trg-42 and looking for optics that will allow me to shoot well up to 1000yds. I am contemplating either a Zeiss diavari in 6-24x56 or there is a IOR 6-24x50 in the EE.

I am looking for some input on the subject from people shooting this caliber and what optics they are using.

Brian
 
If you're shooting paper at 1K get a 12-42 Nightforce. If animals are on the menu then something with less power. Sometimes, you never know where they're going to show up. Having said that, I use a 3.5-15 on my TRG41. I feel it strikes a good balance between close in shots, and 1/2 mile hits. I'm sure others will opt for higher power optics. It will take time to find out what you're comfortable with.
 
Terry Perkins said:
If you're shooting paper at 1K get a 12-42 Nightforce. If animals are on the menu then something with less power. Sometimes, you never know where they're going to show up. Having said that, I use a 3.5-15 on my TRG41. I feel it strikes a good balance between close in shots, and 1/2 mile hits. I'm sure others will opt for higher power optics. It will take time to find out what you're comfortable with.
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I use a 5-15 diavari on my styer scout 308 and find it fine even for the closer shots, Hunting will be the primary use for the gun. I think anything above around a 6 power would make the close shots an issue though.That being said, IOR makes a 4-28, I have an IOR 3-12 and works very well for my 223, but I have not read about anyone using it on a larger caliber. I am also sceptical about how well the new 7 power scopes work. Thanks for the input

Brian
 
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Nighforce in 5.5-22X if you want to hunt and 3-32X if you don't....I have both and am very happy.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
You will need a plus 20 rail for any long work as the 8x32 has only 65 moa in elevation, but you will still be able to get to 1500 yards easily.
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Does anyone actually put 0 MOA rails on LR rifles? Even if they're not needed (my 300 could probably get to 1000 with the internal adjustments in the Mrk 4) I think most guys go with a +20, or am I nuts?
 
Thr trouble with IOR is getting them fixed and yes, they do break more than NF, considerably more, not even close. We have been waiting for 3 scopes to be returned from Romania since September and they can't advise status.

When we bought from Valdada USA, Val would simply replace scopes; now it's an ongoing nightmare. One scope took 8 months to get back, replaced as they lost it.

They wouln't repair a new 4-28 claiming abuse. It was new and they were known to be faulty!

We have a few left, going at cost with the condition that you deal with the Romanians yourself. We are done!

Hirsch Precision Inc.
 
mysticplayer said:
Another option would be the new Sightron SIII LR 6x24 - 50.

Great glass, excellent mechanicals and very well priced. Lots of elevation/windage adjustment to get you out to a mile.

Jerry
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This is a prime example scope of what you buy when you want to have the "well you get what you pay for" speach from the guy that sold it to you.
After all, you just bought a Sako TRG-42; it's not like you just bought a Remington SPS.
For that rifle, I'd either go with a Nightforce 8-32x56 NPR-1 or the 5.5-22x56 with the NPR-1 reticle also.
Nightforce has incredible clarity, the turrets are easy to read, the reticle is in MOA along with the turrets which makes total sense and the manufacturer is awesome to deal with. We've had nothing but positive things to say about dealing with the company thus far.
 
Glock-a-maniac said:
This is a prime example scope of what you buy when you want to have the "well you get what you pay for" speach from the guy that sold it to you.
After all, you just bought a Sako TRG-42; it's not like you just bought a Remington SPS.
For that rifle, I'd either go with a Nightforce 8-32x56 NPR-1 or the 5.5-22x56 with the NPR-1 reticle also.
Nightforce has incredible clarity, the turrets are easy to read, the reticle is in MOA along with the turrets which makes total sense and the manufacturer is awesome to deal with. We've had nothing but positive things to say about dealing with the company thus far.
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I take it that you have not seen, handled or used a new gen Sightron then?

You can also check out the many happy reports on many US sites.

Of those that have bought this scope from me, the comments have been far more positive then you suggest. Their comment usually reflects how much more scope they got then what they spent.

Whether a product is ideal or not is really in the eyes of the one writing the cheque.

It is always nice to see passion about a product or shooting style, but keep an open mind. The world doesn't sit still when there is money to be made.

And optics is where shooters are spending their bucks.

Jerry
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
Yes and the replacement rifle for yours is wearing another 8x32 NF.
There is not much better in my opinion.
You will need a plus 20 rail for any long work as the 8x32 has only 65 moa in elevation, but you will still be able to get to 1500 yards easily.
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so without the +20 rail I will be good to 1500yds? I really don't think I would try shooting an animal that far away, 1000 is about as far as I would feel comfortable with.
 
Depends. You need to shoot your rifle with your desired load at 100yds to know how far you can go.

Maybe you get lucky and your scope still has a bunch of up left. Sometimes you have very little.

Shimming your scope lets you adjust your short range zero to best use that elevation adjustment.

Below is a link to an article I wrote that might answer more of your questions.

Jerry

http://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/setting-up-scope.php
 
Another vote for the NXS

here, Im using an 8x32x56 with 20moa rail on my lapua, AND RICK has a 40 MOA rail just waiting for me to get down to him and get it put on.....

At 2200-2300 yrds or so I was maxed on elevation with a 20moa rail, and was on 10 power, shooting the very bottom hashmark..... An additional 20moa will be nice.

I have a couple of NXS scopes and will be purchasing another shortly for another project that Rick is building for me.
 
Brian46 said:
so without the +20 rail I will be good to 1500yds? I really don't think I would try shooting an animal that far away, 1000 is about as far as I would feel comfortable with.
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Brian if you are going to buy a rail to mount any scope on, there is not normally any differece in cost between a flat and a plus 20. Once you get into the 338 you will like most find that 1000 yards is real close in short order. To not handicap yourself would be the reason I suggested a plus 20.
It is sort of like haveing alot of horsepower under the hood, just because you have it does not mean you have to use it.
But to not have it at all , you may find you would use it if you had it.


Jerry I DID look at the Sightrons at the SHOT show, that is why we don't sell them, they just are not what I expect from a scope, so would not feel comfortable in promoting them, just like we do not sell Bushnel and many others.
They may be ok scopes for many people, we tend to cater more to the demanding shooters.
 
Seems like the NF are the best bang for the buck 'round these parts...

USO/S&B/Zeiss don't garner much popularity; reticule choice aside, maybe the impression is that they're more of a luxury? :confused:
 
Hey shooters, IOR's are going cheap! i was going to wait until getting back our customers scopes for warranty work, but have waited long enough, since we sent them to Europe 28 August 2008! We aren't done yet and will continue our efforts to get satisfaction. Shooters need to know.

Regards,

Peter Dobson
Hirsch Precision Inc.
 
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