270 on bears

I think i saw a vid once, it was Barnes reps using their 140 grain copper bullets in a 270 and they shot a Grizz quite handily.
 
A 270 with a good bullet and proper shot placement will kill a bear no problem. Hell you can kill black bear with a 243 if you want with good shot placement. But personally I have killed bear with both a 270wsm and 300 rum I can tell you the bear didn't go far with either shot because of bullet placement.
 
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My first black bear was killed over bait from 40 yds. I used my 358 Win stoked with 225 Nosler Partitions. The broadside shot was a complete double lung pass through. The sow was punched right off her feet onto her side. However, she immediately got up, her wheels were spinning 100 mph and she proceeded to tear off into some god awful bush. She was dead as a stone when I found her but she had still managed to run almost 100 yds in a matter of a few seconds before piling up.

My buddy, around the same time, shot one under very similar circumstances, hit in the same area with a 270 and his bear almost did a complete dead flop. He wasen't using top notch bullets either. So go figure? I guess dead is dead and a bigger gun may or may not always be better. (I can't comment on grizzlies though.)
 
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270 is lots for bears (black). If my gun was specifically for bear hunting I would choose a bigger calibre cause when the time comes in bear hunting when one gets ugly with you, you may want a bigger canon just in case.
 
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So are all the exit wounds a mess with 270 or wsm?
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Not in my experience. My father and I hunted with 150gr handloads and exit wounds (they always exited) were basically as expected - about 1 1'/2 - 2". Personally I have not had the experience of a .270 leaving nasty exit wounds. We never shot really light bullets reall fast however.
 
The new Winchester silvertips are not the same as the old ones. Only the name is the same! Regards, Bill
 
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With respect to shots from dead astern, there is a need for the performance required for this shot to work. If I have fired my first round and the animal is now running straight away, I shoot; I don't wait to see what happens. My .375, .416, or .458 will drop him because the bullet has made it to the heart lung area of the chest while a .270 bullet is stopped in the gut. With a small bore making a going away shot on wounded game, the best you can hope for is to break a hip, which is not the most humane shot in the world, but it will bring things to a conclusion of sorts.
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I consider 1000 ft/lb at POI a comfortable minimum for black bear, deer, moose, and similar sized game.
FYI
Factory Federal .270win 130gr sp still has 1050ft/lb at 500yd.
Factory Federal .270win 150gr btsp Sierra Gamekings still pack 1000ft/lb at 650yd.

IMHO if you are hunting for meat (and I hope your are!), consider learning to stalk or call your prey, so you will never have to take a tail shot and deal with the messy aftermath of a gutshot animal. :puke:Failing that, bring on the RPGs and .50cals as drvrage said.:50cal:
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My ex's dad took all his game with a .270 using various 130 gr soft points. Everything from Deer to Black bear and Moose. I ate good there, about the only positive thing I have to say about them!
 
zimbu said:
IMHO if you are hunting for meat (and I hope your are!), consider learning to stalk or call your prey, so you will never have to take a tail shot and deal with the messy aftermath of a gutshot animal. :puke:Failing that, bring on the RPGs and .50cals as drvrage said.:50cal:
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A close range shot can be more demanding and require more skill than one taken at longer range. The reason is that you have little time to make a decision and shoot at very close range. As a test, set up a large target with no aiming point at 10 yards, and try hitting it under the time constraint of 1.5 seconds. Unless you are a practiced snap shooter, the time will have elapsed before you have found your sight picture. By comparison a 100 yard shot on an unsuspecting animal is leisurely and comparatively easy.

There are no circumstances however where anyone is guaranteed perfect results when you sight on a live target. For that reason, the experienced hunter always works his rifle's action at the shoulder, as quickly as possible, incase a follow-up is needed. The less experienced will often take the rifle from his shoulder so as to admire the effect of his shot, or to work the action at waist level and his face often takes on a dismayed expression when his bear (deer, caribou, moose, elephant) of a lifetime disappears into the thicket as if untouched.

As for you wishing I was hunting for meat, well you can keep wishing, because trophy hunting is legitimate, legal, and more challenging. The reason trophy hunting is more challenging is because you don't shoot the first animal you see, you a searching for a specific animal. This increases the chances of being skunked significantly.
 
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That's just stupid. Everybody with a lick of sense knows a .270 Winchester won't kill a bear.

How can it? It doesn't end in 'WSSM' or 'RUM', or even 'Magnum'!

Those .270s are just for old guys who don't know any better. Most of those rifles still have wooden handles, I'll bet.
 
270 win. has stood the test of time unlike WSSM and RUM which will probobly fade over time, why pay 10 or 15$ more per box to get the same end result, price is what keeps cartridges around on shelves.
 
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