I am just putting this out there in regards to the reclassification the CFC is doing. I had an idea after I read a post stating that the CFC is just going after affordable, "black evil rifles", i.e. FSN's and the T97. I thought that this might be true and the reason they are not going after AR's is that the price range is still quite high for the average firearms owner, thus people would not buy them in quantities as large as the CZ/FSN or the t97 that have a lower price point. Although it may be an eventuality given the present course we are headed on, that more semi-auto's get targeted. As a correlation, I see the Chinese m4's as a great option given this recent attack on the aforementioned rifles. If the CFC is trying to weed out affordable semi auto's then the Chinese M4 is a perfect remedy. They are at an excellent entry price for the AR market and they increase overall supply.
Reclassifications & The Benefit of Having The Chinese M4
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I think you're reading a little too much into it. I don't see any reason why they would want to target "affordable" black rifles when they could easily target ALL of them.
As stated in the many threads on this topic, the various reclassifications may not even be related. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised to find out the NR->R class changes have something to do with C-301.
As far as being cost related? Doubtful. I have a hard time believing they even pay attention to what any rifle costs.
As stated in the many threads on this topic, the various reclassifications may not even be related. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised to find out the NR->R class changes have something to do with C-301.
As far as being cost related? Doubtful. I have a hard time believing they even pay attention to what any rifle costs.
You might be right. I just wanted to see what you guys think. It probably has more to do with the bill c-301. Nonetheless, affordable semi auto's are being effected. Dealers are going to be hesitant to bring in anything that can be re-classified. I think the chinese m4 is good alternative given the circumstances. That's all.
I don't remember seeing anything on here when the Remington R15 they came out at around $999.95 range from whole sale sports when the $ was at par that was in my 2008 catalog. And I seen them at around $1300. now but everyone's going nuts over these norcs because they are cheap.
I think all new models comming in will get the harassment that the 97 is getting. The non-restricted version ones just being brought in by Can-am have a diffrent FRT# ( from what i can gather ) than the previous shipment of Restricted T97's.
It could be that any new model coming down the pipe will be tampered/fiddled with to the point that the RCMP find somthing to make it restricted if not prohib.
I hope Im wrong, but somthing evil this way comes.
It could be that any new model coming down the pipe will be tampered/fiddled with to the point that the RCMP find somthing to make it restricted if not prohib.
I hope Im wrong, but somthing evil this way comes.
If they have changed the testing criteria then any semi automatic rifle that has been imported after 1995 is in jeopardy of reclassifaction and not just the cheap ones this also means the so called expensive rifles as well
Isn't it possibel that the RCMP is just trying to "discourage" the larger volume importers from pushing the limits of existing gun laws?
I doubt John or Canam (or anyone) will be eager to bring in a large shipment of anything going forward.
I doubt John or Canam (or anyone) will be eager to bring in a large shipment of anything going forward.
Now someone with more knowledge please correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand it that the RCMP must follow the Canada Firearms Act and it is solely the purview of Parliament to decide what firearms get written into the list of prohibited or restricted. I thought the Firearms act itself covered those, which would mean the RCMP cannot change the legislation, only abide by it the way it is written.
How is it that the RCMP can reclassify something into another category, restricted or prohibited without an act of parliament to ammend the firearms act?
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Converted auto. That's is the only possible thing they could say. They can't go 12.5, because there would have to be an OIC.
I think they're after the receivers and/or FCG. It's total BS and incompetence on the part of the RCMP, but like savage said, we could be in a world of s**t if theyve changed their testing protocols.
I think they're after the receivers and/or FCG. It's total BS and incompetence on the part of the RCMP, but like savage said, we could be in a world of s**t if theyve changed their testing protocols.
Well if you were trying to discourage these companies from doing bussiness , I could find a much less potentaily catastrophic way like lets say no import permit that would be a no brainer , The issue here is that these companies have a large amount of capital $$$$$$$ tied up in product that was till several weeks ago legal to import and now is prohibited .These bussinesses simply cannot afford a loss of this magintude with no way to export these guns they are forced to sit on inventory till they destroy it .This may very well mean that after the dust settles these bussiness's will simply no longer exist .
The other question that begs to be answered so who are they going to go after next Wolverine ,Arms East , Questar,The Shooting Edge or are they going to be coming after us ?After all we are considered to be the gun crime problem in Canada by the Chiefs Of Police Assocation and many of the senior and middle managment personel NOT The CRIMINALS That use Firearms in the commision of a Crime BUT US LEGAL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS
AR-15s and variants are restricted by name. It would take more than a bureaucrat in Ottawa to change it to prohibited, it would take an OIC or act of parliament. They won't be going anywhere in the immediate future.
I suspect the delay in the import of the new guns is just that, they're new to the Canadian market and the RCMP doesn't approve. So they drag their feet trying to figure out how to prohib or restrict them. If they don't find anything legitimate then they can still declare them prohib and wait for a court to decide. It doesn't cost them anything and punishes the importer. If I remember correctly that's how Armrus went under.
I suspect the delay in the import of the new guns is just that, they're new to the Canadian market and the RCMP doesn't approve. So they drag their feet trying to figure out how to prohib or restrict them. If they don't find anything legitimate then they can still declare them prohib and wait for a court to decide. It doesn't cost them anything and punishes the importer. If I remember correctly that's how Armrus went under.
IMO it's a desperate ploy to keep these rifles either out of Canada or at least registered in the event that the 'long gun' registry is finally axed.
I suspect there is a lot of fear and loathing of the idea of any semi auto rifle in private hands let alone an inexpensive non-restricted bullpup semi auto rifle. Add to that the difficulty in tracking down hundreds of these rifles (in the event of a ban) if their ownership goes unrecorded and the picture becomes clear: this is a desperate delaying action in the hope that a ban friendly government returns to power.
Of course they might just be trying to persuade the current government of the necessity of a ban too ....
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