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Silence990

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I became addicted to the synthetic with stainless. So I spoke with the very knowledgable guy for awhile, looked at the remmy 700 SPS, few things I didnt like about it.. Looked at the savages, pretty nice guns but just didnt feel right. Picked up this Ruger I was eyeing up. My god, I smiled when I picked it up it felt so right, it felt sturdier, better in my arms, looks better the whole works! I've known Ruger to be a solid brand also so I had no problem steering away from Remmy if this one felt better. After drilling him for another half hour I went with the Ruger M77 MkII with a decent Tasco 2-9x40mm scope to get me started. Im a very happy man :)

Oh, and I went with .30-06 for a few reasons. They didnt have what I wanted in .308, and if they were to order it it would be the "next years pricing" which aparently most mfgs. upped the price on their guns by a few hundred bucks. So .30-06 is pretty darn close ballistics wise, and I cant hunt with it once and awhile which i liked having the option for. Hope you enjoy!! Any comments, suggestions, tips on maint. Things I should know about the M77, anything I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks and enjoy!





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Well, I hope that is what you wanted. It is nothing like what you first mentioned when you came in here. Gunsmith/gun store owners will try and talk you into buying whatever they have in stock. Sometimes if they don't have what you want you need to wait and be patient. I think .308 > .30-06 but that is just me. I just hope you didn't get pressured into buying something you will regret later on.
 
You have a very nice hunting rifle, but understand it will not be an exceptional target rifle. How "precise" it ends up being can only be deterimined after you find a load it likes
 
30-06 is a very versatile caliber for reloading, I don't think you'll be unhappy.

IMO, the rifle deserves better glass though, fair enough if your on a budget, but they can come up for fair prices on EE.

Let's us know how it shoots when you get it out.
 
12GaugeShotty said:
Well, I hope that is what you wanted. It is nothing like what you first mentioned when you came in here. Gunsmith/gun store owners will try and talk you into buying whatever they have in stock. Sometimes if they don't have what you want you need to wait and be patient. I think .308 > .30-06 but that is just me. I just hope you didn't get pressured into buying something you will regret later on.
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THis isn't a big deal, I have purchased more than a few guns I wasn't happy with later on, sold them for not a whole lot less than what I paid. s**t, some guys all they do is buy and sell guns. Keep a few that you really like along the way and 20 years from now, you'll have a dream collection.
 
Onagoth said:
s**t, some guys all they do is buy and sell guns. Keep a few that you really like along the way and 20 years from now, you'll have a dream collection.
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Ugh.. no kidding... I'm one of those guys. Buy them, build them up.. shoot them a bit, then sell them....

Starting to get out of that now..

BTW.. very nice rig, 30.06 will treat you well....
 
That's purdy.
Im on the fence about buying the exact same rifle but with a green Hogue stock.
Tell me what you think about it after you try it out.
 
Merllin said:
Ugh.. no kidding... I'm one of those guys. Buy them, build them up.. shoot them a bit, then sell them....

Starting to get out of that now..

BTW.. very nice rig, 30.06 will treat you well....
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LOL, its funny, for the longest time I had this misconception that I had only ever bought like 5 guns, (probably cause this is what I keep telling my wife, :p) but if I called the CFO, I would be at least 10 buys for sure, probably more like 15, and I'm only 25.

No biggie to me, I'll be shooting the rest of the my life.
 
Onagoth said:
LOL, its funny, for the longest time I had this misconception that I had only ever bought like 5 guns, (probably cause this is what I keep telling my wife, :p) but if I called the CFO, I would be at least 10 buys for sure, probably more like 15, and I'm only 25.

No biggie to me, I'll be shooting the rest of the my life.
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Ya... for me it was when I was doing my insurance rider.. and I calculated it all out and almost crapped myself.

Ive pretty much sold everything now, and the builds I am doing are just for me. And I will keep them for a long time...... unless the price is right :D haha
 
Merllin said:
Ive pretty much sold everything now, and the builds I am doing are just for me. And I will keep them for a long time...... unless the price is right :D haha
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Same here, I am down to a decent shotgun, a fun gunnin .22, a fairly precise rifle and a glock (the handgun I've always wanted). Just need to get a black rifle and I'll be fulfilled. :)

It's pretty good, I don't want for very much, I just want to make sure I shoot everything I own and that nothing just sits collecting dust.
 
Thanks guys, im very happy with how it feels and looks, I had to snatch it ASAP but i prob wont be firing it for a few weeks :'( I think the black with stainless barrel and black scope looks perfect, it accents very nicely.

It probably is an underpowered scope for now but it seems not too bad to get me started anyways. It came mounted and all with a gun case for $800, im pretty happy with that.

Why would it be a great hunting rifle but not precision rifle? I want to use it for both but as far as I know .30-06 is a very good cartridge ballistics wise..
 
I love 30-06's and have a few of them. I have never had a chance to check out a Ruger though. Yours looks really nice.

For an off the shelf, mass produced, commonly available and commonly priced, rifle - I don't know that anyone anywhere has any real supportable data that this is more accurate than that. All the makers change their stuff all the time so every year each one is up against something different. Everything comes in to play.

You know:
the CNC machine
the heat treatment
the alloy
the stock
the trigger
the assembly torque
and anything else you can think of

That is just some of the reason precision rifles often cost more. They are made up of higher specification parts assembled to a higher degree of precision. It doesn't always work either, it just increases the percentage of accurate rifles to dogs.
 
Silence990 said:
Why would it be a great hunting rifle but not precision rifle? I want to use it for both but as far as I know .30-06 is a very good cartridge ballistics wise..
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At best your rifle will shoot 3/4 MOA unless it is one of the few where all the poor factory tolerances cancel out and create an accurate gun. Precision rifle's at their worst shoot 3/4 MOA, but I guess that all depends what you consider precision.

The gun you have is built light weight for off hand shooting. In my opinion, off hand shooting is not precision shooting, buts that’s just my opinion.

A precision rifle in most cases is adjustable to the shooter, e.g. cheek rest, LOP, tunned trigger. The rifle you have is not adjustable and probably has a 6lb trigger.

I'm not saying your rifle can not be modified, however ruger has a somewhat limited selection of aftermarket parts to do a precision rebuild, but it can be done.

At the very least, I would suggest having it bedded, adjust the trigger if possible and put on a better scope. You can't hit what you can't see and if you want to hit precisely where you aim you will need quality optics ($$$$).

One other important thing when you have a precision rifle is the need to reload. The ammo needs to be matched to the gun, which is harder to do with factory. On top of that there is not much of a selection for factory match ammo, especially in 30-06 (.308 would have been better).

Also factory match ammo is expensive to shoot, and most precision shooters practice a lot. In order to shoot as good as the gun you have to do your part and that will only happen if you practice. Kind of like owning the best golf clubs money can buy and only golfing twice a year. The clubs won't help your score a whole lot.

Now on the other hand a good hunting rife should be easy to handle, capable of 1.5MOA or better and comfortable to shoot. Your rifle is an excellent hunting rifle, I have several rugers and love them.:)

Dave
 
Silence990 said:
Why would it be a great hunting rifle but not precision rifle? I want to use it for both but as far as I know .30-06 is a very good cartridge ballistics wise..
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Your rifle is designed and built for hunting, and the rifle and the cartridge will work very well for that purpose. It is a beautiful rifle - for that purpose.

The gun's barrel is not going to tolerate the sort of heat that you will generate by shooting a couple of boxes of ammo in relatively quick succession. Light profile barrels are very poor choices for target shooting. Furthermore, the 30-06 is going to be an uncomfortable round to shoot in long strings. You will run the risk of developing flinches with such a stout round. If you load your own ammo, you should be able to find a load that works fairly well, but I have not seen 30-06 factory match ammo in any store in which I've shopped

Lastly, Ruger are not known for their off-the-shelf accuracy. Some work better than others, and a distinct minority work very well, but typically, they are no better than 1MOA.

Enjoy it, shoot it and learn from it, but understand that it is not built to be a "precision" firearm.
 
Who said the 30/06 wasnt versatile?
110gr-200gr+ grain bullet choices? Great selection of Match, Varmint, hunting bullets, just like the 308.

I wouldnt call it "precision" either, but a nice piece. Im sure you will find loads that shoot under 1".

Well said Obtunded...
 
Definitely a nice hunting rifle.

I also have an M77 in 30-06 for hunting, though is an ultralight model and kicks like a mule with barely any recoil pad and no weight to soften it up.

I've never judged it for accuracy though as it isn't really built for it. If it hits on target in 1-3 shots that is all I really need.
 
Thanks for the great input again guys. Im kinda fuzzy with the 3/4 1" MOA etc. is this a grouping at a given range or something? Im fine with it being more on the hunting side of things, it will be a fun rifle to take to the range once and awhile and go hunting. True precision prob costs a lot of money :p

Thanks for the input, very good to know.. Im sure it wont be the last rifle i buy anyways :p
 
1 MOA = 1 inch at 100 yards, 2 inch at 200 yards, 3 inch at 300 yards, etc.

You can find the full definition by googling the term minute of angle.
 
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