Night Vision Scopes ? Yukon brand any Good?

[dingus]

Im looking at buying and setting up a rifle with a NV Scope.
Now i been looking at the Yukon brand ones they look ok and there like $600 and Up.there just gen I but good to 100 Yds sounds like.

Anyone Useing any NV Scopes would like some advise please and on the legal questions of use to.
I know you cant hunt at night but what about Target shooting.

 

[nealio]

I am curious too. If you buy one let us know what you think. I still am leaning towards night vison goggles and NV compatible red dot, but it woulndt have the range you are talking about

 

[dingus]

I checked out a few Places and theres a Place in ON Canada that has near everything they Carry Yukon 1.5 x 42 gen 1
and some ATN Aries series.
I emailed em.
I cant see any legal issiues as you can just use it as a monocalar if ya want.

Theres lotsa old Heavy Russian looking ones but im thinking the Titaium Yukons are the way to go as there light weight. use AA batterys i think and seem to have good rateings

Isnt there anyone useing theses up here

If any Dealers at CGN carry them please PM me..

 

[chickwithagun]

Hi, I own a Yukon NVRS-F 2.5x50 NV scope, purchased for $1200.00 .. For perfect clear vision 150 to 200yards no problem target shooting use only.Reallly cool toy .
Has both starlight and I.Red.
want any more info PM me.
-nikki

 

[dingus]

PM Sent.

I cant beleive there isnt a whole bunch of people with theses cept maby they want to keep Mum about it


I only thought you could have the Nocks in NV not Rifle Scopes.
Im gona get one but to Decide which one is the Hard part im thinking the Yukon so far!

 

[phishroy]

If you are serious in getting a high qulity night vison or thermal vision this is the company I would suggest you contact: http://www.gsci1.com/policy.htm

I have had the chance to compare side by side with the yukon brand “toys”.
Very big difference.

First of all you should check out the different ways night vision works, there are several different methods which are commonly separated by terms of generation 1 gen’ 2 gen 3 gen 4 etc’ and even within the generations there are different sub classes.

Any ways.
To try and simplify things, the gen’ 1 is extremely basic you would need allot of starlight to see and the picture would probably be very fussy still. Where gen 5 doesn’t even need any starlight at all if I remember correct and the image is extremely sharp.
If you want something even more there is a fusion of thermal vision combined or not combined with night vision which is a whole new ball game.

Bottom line is.. I would defiantly recommend shooting off an email to these guys , they were very helpful in explaining and simplifying things to me and help me make a discussion on which gen of optics to go with .
they mostley do projects for law enforcement or millitary but they were kind enough to help me out as well.
they are located in Ontario to top it off which resolves any problems with shipping across boarders.
I purchased a monocular from them which helps me walk around before sunrise to get to my spot without having to use a flashlight and make any noise stumbling over trees and such.

hope this helps.
good luck

 

[surfclod]

I was told at a gunshow that there were some restrictions on civilian ownership of night vision equipment that was gen 3 and newer.

Like anything I hear at a gunshow I just nod politely and take it with a grain of salt. I am curious if any or all of what he said is true.

A couple years back there was some major predation problems on goat and sheep herds back home so I was curious about gun mounted night vision scopes at the time. I nearly bought a russian scope but with no guarantee that it worked I passed on it, however the idea still intrigues me.

 

[dingus]

If you are serious in getting a high qulity night vison or thermal vision this is the company I would suggest you contact: http://www.gsci1.com/policy.htm

I have had the chance to compare side by side with the yukon brand “toys”.
Very big difference.

First of all you should check out the different ways night vision works, there are several different methods which are commonly separated by terms of generation 1 gen’ 2 gen 3 gen 4 etc’ and even within the generations there are different sub classes.

Any ways.
To try and simplify things, the gen’ 1 is extremely basic you would need allot of starlight to see and the picture would probably be very fussy still. Where gen 5 doesn’t even need any starlight at all if I remember correct and the image is extremely sharp.
If you want something even more there is a fusion of thermal vision combined or not combined with night vision which is a whole new ball game.

Bottom line is.. I would defiantly recommend shooting off an email to these guys , they were very helpful in explaining and simplifying things to me and help me make a discussion on which gen of optics to go with .
they mostley do projects for law enforcement or millitary but they were kind enough to help me out as well.
they are located in Ontario to top it off which resolves any problems with shipping across boarders.
I purchased a monocular from them which helps me walk around before sunrise to get to my spot without having to use a flashlight and make any noise stumbling over trees and such.

hope this helps.
good luck

This Helps alot!
Thanks

 

[phishroy]

yes. i think there are restrictions for civilians when it comes to NV, i think it is gen 3 but better ask people that work in the field to make sure.

 

[gallen270]

who the hell regulates NV's? ive never heard of restrictions, but then again, ive never tried to buy one.

 

[Tracer Bullet]

Yes, USA ITAR rules has some tough restrictions against exportation of some advanced versions of Gen-3 night vision devices such as autogated and Pinnacle type thin-filmed image intensifier tubes.

"Gen-4" is a myth and there is no such thing of anything higher at this time.

Some Gen-2+ versions can have nearly the same image lp/mm resolutions as the Gen-3's and have a slightly longer tube life than regular Gen-2 tubes.

For Gen-1 devices, one of the main drawbacks is they often (majority of models but not all) suffer from a fish-eye effect. Where the center of the image is clear and can be quite sharp, but towards the edges the image becomes distorted. They also need some kind of light, skyshine, or IR enhancement to function. None work in starlight only conditions.

 

[koldt]

For Gen-1 devices, one of the main drawbacks is they often (majority of models but not all) suffer from a fish-eye effect. Where the center of the image is clear and can be quite sharp, but towards the edges the image becomes distorted. They also need some kind of light, skyshine, or IR enhancement to function. None work in starlight only conditions.

Nope.

The Varo (turned Litton) manufactured, Canadian issued (early '70s), AN/PVS 502, is a Gen1 starlight scope with 28 lp/mm. It is the equivilent of the Gen2 PVS4 in every way for performance. The PVS4 will turn off immediately and has a maual brightness gain. The PVS502 only has an adjustable reticule and once shut off, takes a while for the tube to completely shut down. Otherwise the 502 is every bit comparable. The PVS4 is the depth of the eye objective rubber piece shorter, approx 2". Weight is almost identical and some parts interchange.

Also the PVS2 was starlight Gen1.

The terminology of Gen1,2, 2+, 3, is in reference to starlight capable image intensifying optics. Thermal and stuff is different yet. Before there was gen1 starlight, there was IR, such as the Canadian issue PAS4. Circa 1961, it was the first general issue night vision Canada used. It was IR night vision that required some sort of IR light source to aid in image recognition.