Hand gun Hunting

Sealhunter I totally understand, I feel the same way about black powder I don't want anything to do with it and we can even legally hunt with black powder rifles.
 
Camp Cook said:
Sealhunter I totally understand, I feel the same way about black powder I don't want anything to do with it and we can even legally hunt with black powder rifles. You truly have insight into such issues. Others around here such as Grouseman should really listen to what you say, and I mean listen. You have a weakth of knowledge that would be the envy of any hunter. I respect your oppinions, and they're not just oppinions, they are actually right. Cheers!
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Thanks :);)
 
Well everyone knows "seal hunters" prefer the feel of a wooden club....:D

I think pushing to allow Handguns for hunting and for scouting trips prior to a hunt should be on the agenda for the hunting organizations.

I think passing a proficiency test with a suitable handgun would be reasonable and would go along way to weed out the cowboys who can't shoot and more importantly remove proficiency from the argument against it.

I also think that passing a shooting test to get your hunters licence is not the craziest thing I've ever considered....
 
I think passing a proficiency test with a suitable handgun would be reasonable and would go along way to weed out the cowboys who can't shoot and more importantly remove proficiency from the argument against it
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Will we require this for bows and rifles, too? If not, then it's not fair.



Can-down said:
I also think that passing a shooting test to get your hunters licence is not the craziest thing I've ever considered....
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It sounds good in theory, but it woudl kill off hunting recruitment and retention.
 
Gatehouse said:
Will we require this for bows and rifles, too? If not, then it's not fair.





It sounds good in theory, but it woudl kill off hunting recruitment and retention.
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Well if it was a fair world handgun hunting would not be the topic of discussion today.

I guess making someone qualify for handgun hunting could lead to other qualification standards for hunting but to me the qualification would be a one time thing not every year.

Go to your local range shoot an appropriate target and then get another member to sign off as a witness.
I don't think it needs to be a crazy hard qualification process with expensive examiners present and done every year!

Just once and more of an honor system.
 
Can-down said:
Well if it was a fair world handgun hunting would not be the topic of discussion today.

I guess making someone qualify for handgun hunting could lead to other qualification standards for hunting but to me the qualification would be a one time thing not every year.

Go to your local range shoot an appropriate target and then get another member to sign off as a witness.
I don't think it needs to be a crazy hard qualification process with expensive examiners present and done every year!

Just once and more of an honor system.
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You are proposing this for the rifle and bow hunters, too?
 
"...In Ontario it was legal till 1979..." Nope. Late 60's, if ever. Certainly not 1979.
The OFAH has done little or nothing for hunter's rights. No opposition to the Outdoors Card tax or ending the Spring Bear hunt.
 
Do a shooting course of fire just like I have to do now every time I re-apply to get my ATC renewed?

Here is all it would be club approved ranger officer has to witness a course of fire, write & sign a letter on club letter head describing the course of fire, what handguns/ammo/targets were used and if said shooter is proficient or not.

Yeah I'd do it oh thats right I already do works for me... :D
 
Camp Cook said:
Do a shooting course of fire just like I have to do now every time I re-apply to get my ATC renewed?

Here is all it would be club approved ranger officer has to witness a course of fire, write & sign a letter on club letter head describing the course of fire, what handguns/ammo/targets were used and if said shooter is proficient or not.

Yeah I'd do it oh thats right I already do works for me... :D
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Unless we are going to do this for bow and rifle shooters, what is the point?
 
Camp Cook said:
Maybe just maybe it would help allow us to hunt with handguns...
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So it woudl be a public relations/feel good move?

It would not achieve any great gains in limiting wounded/ unrecovered animals, but if the CFC and the MOE said "do this and you can hunt with handguns" I'd support it, just as a means to an end. I would hope that a pro- handgun hunting group wouldn't come out and SUGGEST the idea, though....

Seems too much like all the BS that goes on at Ontario ranges before you can get an ATT or shoot at a range:jerkit:
 
I'd like to try handgun hunting too. But it's a big jump from our current system to what most people would like to see allowed.

Actually what I'd prefer is the government allowing hunters to carry a handgun while hunting with a rifle or shotgun, the handgun should just be allowed to "finish off" an animal or be used as protection.

Once this system is in place and everyone sees that hunters aren't going around shooting people, robbing banks and so forth, then we could implement handgun hunting for small game. When animals aren't senselessly being injured by poor shot placement and carelessness, larger game could be phased in. The arguements against us would have no evidence and our requests would likely be better received.

I guess what I'm saying is that no matter how interested we all are in handgun hunting, it's not going to happen overnight and regulations and laws are unlikely to change in one fell swoop...the general public won't buy it and neither will the politicians. Our best hope seems to be a gradual phasing in of handguns over a period of time and by reassuring the politicians and public that those who choose to hunt with handguns are just as responsible as those who hunt with muzzleloaders, rifles, shotguns or bows.
 
WOW that was a pretty good first post... :D

Welcome to CGNTZ... :welcome:

then we could implement handgun hunting for small game. When animals aren't senselessly being injured by poor shot placement and carelessness, larger game could be phased in
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I would deal with it if I had to but I don't really agree with this comment because I would only really want to hunt big game and I would be using cartriges like 45 Colt/454 Casull in revolvers and 308Bellm(308WinX444)/375JDJ(375X444)/45-70 in single shots for all my handgun hunting needs.

These single shot cartridges are all designed for hunting big game beyond 200 yards and are amazingly accurate.

For grouse/rabbits I would mount a pistol grip onto my Contender frame and use my 16.5" 22LR match chamber barrel...

D*mn I need to go talk with my MP... :)

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I would start at the provincial level. Best to have each provinces main wildlife org contact the minister responsible for hunting, and go from there.
 
I think it would be great to be able to legally pack my Ruger Single-Six or MkI .22 and pop grouse & rabbits while out in the bush. Or how about calling in a bull moose and taking him up close & personal with a single action .45 Colt loaded with hardcast handloads (or a .454 Casull) There's no good reason for not allowing handguns for hunting. It's not like anyone is supporting inner-city homies to CC nickle 1911's for Pete's sake.
 
The day the government says they won't throw my ass in jail for doing it, I'll be packing a sidearm for grouse and the like, while I'm in the bush.

I always wanted to be able to pack something like a Ruger Bearcat. I'd be on that like white on rice!

<sigh>

Probably not gonna happen, though. We can only keep trying!

Cheers
Trev
 
A shooting component was manditory in Newfoundland up until the early 90's.

You had to put 2 out of 3 bullets in 6x6 at 100 yrds in order to get a license.

If a shooting qualifier will affect recruitment, then the people affected can stay affected and not take up hunting in my oppinion.
 
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