I was reading the remington catalog earlier and saw that the 7615 pump action rifle comes with a 10 round AR magazine. Now I know that capacity restrictions apply to the mags themselves so could you legally use one in an AR 15 like the LAR mags?
Remington 7615 mags in an AR?
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It may be in the catalogue, but I bet that magazine does not come with a 7615 sold in Canada. Remington advertised the 7615 as using AR magazines, therefore any 7615 magazine is considered to be an AR - semi-auto rifle - magazine. The only 10 shot option is an AR pistol magazine.
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I'am thinking the mags are to short to fit in a AR mag well, IIRC they're shorter then LAR-15 mags.
The mag that came with my 7615 was only 5 rounds and is marked 7615-5 on the base plate. It is shorter than the LAR-15 10 round mag. The 7615 5 round mag just barely fits in my Tavor, I haven't tried it in my AR.
Here are a few pics of both the Remington 7615-5 mag and the LAR-15 mag.
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Here are a few pics of both the Remington 7615-5 mag and the LAR-15 mag.
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I can verify as I own one the 7615 comes with a legal 10 round magazine. I own one it is true, I bought it from a dealer on this board. I even questioned him on whether it was legal, he promised it was.
I have a feeding problem using the LAR 10 round mags, not sure if this is just mine.
TFunfur my stock mag is different than yours. I have the tactical version with the extendable stock.
EDIT - added pics to show the stock mag and how many rounds it holds
On the left is the LAR 15 and the right is the stock 7615 tactical stock.
I have a feeding problem using the LAR 10 round mags, not sure if this is just mine.
TFunfur my stock mag is different than yours. I have the tactical version with the extendable stock.
EDIT - added pics to show the stock mag and how many rounds it holds
On the left is the LAR 15 and the right is the stock 7615 tactical stock.
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surfer365,
My 7615 was basicly identical to yours with the exception of the adjustable stock. Mine had the standard stock. I am curious as to what is stamped on the base plate of the 10 round mag it came with. Is it 7615-10?
Here is a pic of the rifle.
My 7615 was basicly identical to yours with the exception of the adjustable stock. Mine had the standard stock. I am curious as to what is stamped on the base plate of the 10 round mag it came with. Is it 7615-10?
Here is a pic of the rifle.
I had seen your 7615 posted on the EE a couple days after I bought mine, that is how I knew if was different (but the same).
There is no stamp on the bottom. Could it be aftermarket? The box was sealed, brand new so I sure that this was the original magazine. The floor model I played with also had the 10 round magazine. But the dealers website says 5 round capacity.
Not sure what to tell you. If you are interested PM me and I will tell you where I bought it, you can enquire with them.
On a side note... did you have any feeding problems using the LAR-15?
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I am not 100% sure. I asked the dealer and he told me because it is pump action it is legal. If someone can confirm that it is illegal I will be going back to the dealer pissed!
I will probably have a talk with the RCMP tomorrow to confirm I am in full compliance with the laws. I didn't have any doubt to question it until TFunfer posted pics of his mags.
I purchased my 7615 back at the end of November and never fired it. I was too busy with work and have now sold it to fund another project (I will probably regret selling it as it is a nice little carbine). When I bought it, it came with 3 7615-5 mags.
It is my understanding that because Remington advertised the 7615 as using standard AR mags they must be restricted to 5 rounds in Canada. The only exception being the LAR-15 pistol mags. IIRC the 7615's sold in the US come with 10 round mags as some states don't allow any higher capacity and the other states you can easily buy 30 round AR mags for your 7615 for cheap.
If Remington used a unique mag for the 7615 then there would be no mag limit, but unfortunately they wanted it to use standard AR mags.
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SGTMAJSTEVE
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my understanding from the CFC. is mags limits only apply to firearms that are both center fire & semi auto! there are no restrictions on pump or bolt action rifles!
also Dave Thomlison stated that its the mag original origin that matters. for example a pistol mag from a 10 uzi pistol will fit the carbine. so its o.k. because it was designed for the pistol.
The Manitoba Chief Provincal firearms Officer's office informed me that the 30 rd. mag on a Remington pump action rifle is LEGAL. how ever the onus is on you to prove is not a mag made for the AR. as stupid as it sounds. the challange is after market mags . e.g. eagle, ram line etc. what are they designed For? STUPID AS HELL!!!!
also Dave Thomlison stated that its the mag original origin that matters. for example a pistol mag from a 10 uzi pistol will fit the carbine. so its o.k. because it was designed for the pistol.
The Manitoba Chief Provincal firearms Officer's office informed me that the 30 rd. mag on a Remington pump action rifle is LEGAL. how ever the onus is on you to prove is not a mag made for the AR. as stupid as it sounds. the challange is after market mags . e.g. eagle, ram line etc. what are they designed For? STUPID AS HELL!!!!
you are incorrect the limits are to the mags, not the gun. mags designed for semi center fires are limited to 5 rounds.
the 7615 uses ar15 mags, which are designed for a semi auto gun (the AR15), and therefore limited to 5 rounds.
SGTMAJSTEVE
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Sorry your wrong. in Manitoba it has been made clear it is the rifle action the dictates the magazine capacity! pump action rifle have no mag. restrictions. check with your C.,F.O.
The only legal AR magazine that holds more that 5 rounds is the one for the Rock River Pistol, LAR-15. All others, no matter what your opinion or what you use them in are prohibited, THAT'S IT. No debate. If you are caught with an AR magazine that is NOT the properly marked AR pistol magazine (as there is only one legal type from one legal importer) you are in possession of a prohibited device and will loose it and all your firearms. PERIOD.
You sir are correct. 7615's are legally sold with a 10 round magazine. I am getting a little tried of this debate. The facts are it is a pump action rifle so it is NOT limited to 5 rounds.
SGTMAJSTEVE
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check your facts if the mags says remington on it, it is legal!!!!!
I have talked to my c.f.o. He agree's. His opnion is what counts!,
stop trying to do big brother liberals work for him!!!
The limits are imposed federally - your provincial CFO has nothing to say about it. Having said that, please get the Manitoba's CFO ruling in writing, scan and show it to us.
SGTMAJSTEVE
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the cfo has a lot to say about ! The law is clear. Mag capacities apply to center fire semi autos. Not pumps!
Also a kel. Tec. Pistol uses ar type mags. Also legal!!
By the way the britsh north american act also says federal laws are improper, firearm's fall under the provinces & territories!
But that's another argument.
Don't do big brother liberals work for him!!
That's what the liberals love
us fighting amongst ourselves
