Lee Enfield Rifling Groves
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As I mentioned before on your other groove thread, A four or five groove barrel will not necessarily be more accurate then a two groove one. There are other factors that affect accuracy more. An improperly bedded barrel can throw off accuracy by more then the number of grooves. So can a worn crown. Five groove ones are more desirable in my opinion, but As i said before, My dad has a two groove No.4 LB and it is an excellent shooter, I would take it in a heart beat in he offered it to me. Are you looking into buying a Enfield? or just an enthusiast?
I just bought a rifle from " Wheaty" a few days ago. It's just a camp rifle I can have in the truck without worrying about it. I can't post pics. but here's his description. " The Lee Enfield is a what they (several dealers) try and call a Commando Carbine. NO such thing. It was one of the rifles converted by Golden State Arms in the 60's and 70's no matter what the "expurts" say. A nice oddity for the shooter or collector of odd ball caca. They are getting scarce and a nice hole filler for the collector/accumulator of Lee Enfield schlock " 
I want to buy a #4 for fun target shooting at the range. Nothing serious, But I want a " Nice Rifle " I am thinking the Target Rifles would have been 5 groove rifling. Jack PS. I guess you could say both " looking into buying a Enfield? and enthusiast "
I want to buy a #4 for fun target shooting at the range. Nothing serious, But I want a " Nice Rifle " I am thinking the Target Rifles would have been 5 groove rifling. Jack PS. I guess you could say both " looking into buying a Enfield? and enthusiast "
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Jack
My buddy claims 2 groove barrelled Enfields kick harder...I should do a comparison.
I wonder if your buddy just has experienced more perceived recoil on certain occasions whne he was shooting two-groove barrels or does he have a theory as to why they would produce more actual recoil than barrels with more grooves?
He feels the extremely wide lands mean the bullet has to be deformed more to force it though, thus more felt recall...
Not my idea, just reporting it.
As I said, I might get around to testing the theory out.
I had a target No 4 Long Branch with a 6 groove, it had 6 on one of the bayonet lugs.
Apparently they were rifled with Bren gun rifling equipment.
I think Long Branch also made Brens and Sten's. They probably had everyone making everything due to the war.
LB made Stens, and No4's
Inglis made, Brens, BHP's airplane machine guns, etc. I have never heard of them making Brens, a LB Bren would fetch BIG bucks i would think anywhere, Do you know where I can read soem info on this?
Not discounting your info, just like a source
Inglis made, Brens, BHP's airplane machine guns, etc. I have never heard of them making Brens, a LB Bren would fetch BIG bucks i would think anywhere, Do you know where I can read soem info on this?
Not discounting your info, just like a source
I can't give you a reliable source at the moment. I remember reading articles and posts about it though. Wikepedia has an article about the bren and states that Long Branch produced Brens, But Wikipedia is not exactly great research material. Let some of the more Experienced Milsurp gods kick in.
The late production 6 groove CAL barrels were made using machinery originally used for Bren barrel production. This was long after Inglis stopped arms production. Machinery got moved.
Incidentally, Inglis was contracted for Bren manufacture before SAL - Long Branch - existed.
Incidentally, Inglis was contracted for Bren manufacture before SAL - Long Branch - existed.
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What manufacturers made two grove barrels other than Savage and Longbranch?
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The Canadian army directed that 5-groove & 6-groove barreled rifles could be selected for conversion into target rifles.
Wartime manufactured 4 groove barreled No4 rifles are very rare
Canadian Arsenals Limited "Small Arms Division" (commonly called "Long Branch") received ALL of the government owned tooling and equipment from Inglis Boiler Co. when they closed down small arms manufacture in 1945/46.
CAL produced Brens & Browning High Power pistols post WW2, having said that they mostly assembled un-numbered receivers and manufactured small parts & componants (including barrels).
Long Branch 6- groove barrels (dated 1949 thru 1958) are Right Hand rifling, and are said to have been rifled with the Bren (6 groove right hand) rifling broaches.
All other military No4 barrels are Left Hand rifling grooves (2, 3, 4, 5 [& Savage 6 grooves]).
Having said that, I'm not sure that the Savage 4 & 6 groove barrels were left hand rifled...I guess I should look at my 4 groove Savage barrel, anyone got a 6 groove Savage to examine? I know that the BSA 4 groove barrels are left hand.
Wartime Fazakerly, Maltby & (fewer but they exist) BSA No4 rifles are found fitted with British manufactured 2 groove barrels.
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