jetrefueller
Regular
- Location
- Northern Ontario
Hi Guys anyone know where or if you can buy the Cheytac 408 here in Ontario
or for that matter in Canada?
or for that matter in Canada?
Cheytac
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Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Summerland, BC
I can offer you barrels - Shilen and McGowen, brass, dies, triggers, bases, rings.
Obtunded has Kreigers, AND????? When are the other ones coming in?
Stocks, Ian will give you some really nice stuff. Or you can modify the factory stock.
Actions - custom or single shot Rem/Wby/CZ/Ruger, even a Savage (maybe).
Bullets - ABC bullets are likely the best on the market.
Just make sure you know what you are getting into cause it is a very niche chambering.
Jerry
Obtunded has Kreigers, AND????? When are the other ones coming in?
Stocks, Ian will give you some really nice stuff. Or you can modify the factory stock.
Actions - custom or single shot Rem/Wby/CZ/Ruger, even a Savage (maybe).
Bullets - ABC bullets are likely the best on the market.
Just make sure you know what you are getting into cause it is a very niche chambering.
Jerry
- Location
- In the clock tower!!
I've spent a great deal of time researching a 408 build. As Jerry mentioned, its a niche build/caliber. Performance wise, I will be spending my hard earned cash elsewhere. To many issues to overcome with the 408.
Are you looking at for this rifle
Of course less the suppressor
The EDM Wind Runner XM 408 Chey Tac rifles are legal to import into Canada from the US ,A word of Caution these are about $7,700.00 US
The nice thing is that the primers are Large Rifle not the specialty 50 Cal primers . I have been talking to the guys down in the US they have found that the Swaged bullets deliver better accuracy and consistentcy over the turned bullets .
Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Summerland, BC
Xfan, neither is for the cheap but primers are the main weakness in the BMG and why I never pursued it.
The CT case does have very nice volume and makes THE hotrodded 338.
ABC doesn't have a website but you can pm johblack (Peter Rizzi in Salmon Arm). He is the main man.
I believe they are working on swaged monster slugs at this time. If they fly as well or better then their turned bullets, will be very interesting at extreme distances.
Jerry
The CT case does have very nice volume and makes THE hotrodded 338.
ABC doesn't have a website but you can pm johblack (Peter Rizzi in Salmon Arm). He is the main man.
I believe they are working on swaged monster slugs at this time. If they fly as well or better then their turned bullets, will be very interesting at extreme distances.
Jerry
I agree when the 408 Cheytac first came out with there claims of extreme longrange accuracy and there were just that claim of wishful thinking . I think that there has been enough actual hands on development that shows the cartidges has potential .
Here's my experience with the Cheytac, not that anyone cares.
I looked into buying a 50 cal a few years back and was worried about the cost and availabilty of components at the time. I'm not sure what the situation is right now but I hear it's not much better.
I then looked into getting a 408 Cheytac built. The more I looked into it the more I wanted to go with a .338 Cheytac wildcat. After talking with several people who have them, the one concern is barrel life.
A gun builder in the states (Kirby Allen) recomended going with the .375 cal and he was working at the time with Jamison to resolve thier brass issues. I decided to go with his wildcat varient of the .375 cheytac called the .375 Allen Mag. It is an improved 408 (less body taper, sharper shoulder) necked down to .375.
I have not had much time to play with the gun yet but so far it shows promiss. With 350gr SMK's I am getting around 3100 fps. That is a light load, just breaking in the barrel and getting used to the gun. With the rocky mountain bullets I have on the way (375gr) I should be able to push them at around 3300fps or close to it. The new bullets have a B.C. of around 1, although George from RM bullets has not done enough testing to know the exact number, they are still very new. With this combo I should be getting about a 20% better tragectory than the average 50cal shooting an A-max, at least out to 2.5km or so.
As for cost I got the brass fire formed and stamped 375 AM right from Kirby for $4USD each so $5CND. The bullets come out to about $3.60CND each and the powder and primer come out to about 65 cents per round. The newer Jamison brass is good for at least 4 fireings (at least that is what I have been told) if it is not pushed to the max, so with the cost of brass factored in the cost per shot is around $5.50. Not sure what a 50cal A-max round is worth but I think it is a bit more, around $8 bucks depending on brass life.
The only downfall for the .375 AM that I can see is that it only delivers roughly 1/2 the energy that the 50 cal does. Not that it is really a downfall, I mean how much energy is needed for long range target shooting or hunting. At 2000m the .375 delivers roughly 1900ft/lbs of energy. That's about as much as a .308 at 200m.
When I started out, I was looking for something to cut the wind as good as a 50cal and delivered a little more energy than the standard .338's like the Lapua and Rum. What I got is a flatter shooting gun that is as good if not better in the wind than a 50, and delivers more than enough energy out to 2000m to bring down any north american game (not that I'd try at that distance). It costs less to shoot than a 50cal and you don't need a special press to reload it, provided your using a RCBS Rock chucker or something that size.
The Cheytac may be a niche cartrige right now but it has been around for a quite a few years now and is still growing in popularity, at least the wilcats are.
Dave
.I looked into buying a 50 cal a few years back and was worried about the cost and availabilty of components at the time. I'm not sure what the situation is right now but I hear it's not much better.
I then looked into getting a 408 Cheytac built. The more I looked into it the more I wanted to go with a .338 Cheytac wildcat. After talking with several people who have them, the one concern is barrel life.
A gun builder in the states (Kirby Allen) recomended going with the .375 cal and he was working at the time with Jamison to resolve thier brass issues. I decided to go with his wildcat varient of the .375 cheytac called the .375 Allen Mag. It is an improved 408 (less body taper, sharper shoulder) necked down to .375.
I have not had much time to play with the gun yet but so far it shows promiss. With 350gr SMK's I am getting around 3100 fps. That is a light load, just breaking in the barrel and getting used to the gun. With the rocky mountain bullets I have on the way (375gr) I should be able to push them at around 3300fps or close to it. The new bullets have a B.C. of around 1, although George from RM bullets has not done enough testing to know the exact number, they are still very new. With this combo I should be getting about a 20% better tragectory than the average 50cal shooting an A-max, at least out to 2.5km or so.
As for cost I got the brass fire formed and stamped 375 AM right from Kirby for $4USD each so $5CND. The bullets come out to about $3.60CND each and the powder and primer come out to about 65 cents per round. The newer Jamison brass is good for at least 4 fireings (at least that is what I have been told) if it is not pushed to the max, so with the cost of brass factored in the cost per shot is around $5.50. Not sure what a 50cal A-max round is worth but I think it is a bit more, around $8 bucks depending on brass life.
The only downfall for the .375 AM that I can see is that it only delivers roughly 1/2 the energy that the 50 cal does. Not that it is really a downfall, I mean how much energy is needed for long range target shooting or hunting. At 2000m the .375 delivers roughly 1900ft/lbs of energy
. That's about as much as a .308 at 200m.When I started out, I was looking for something to cut the wind as good as a 50cal and delivered a little more energy than the standard .338's like the Lapua and Rum. What I got is a flatter shooting gun that is as good if not better in the wind than a 50, and delivers more than enough energy out to 2000m to bring down any north american game (not that I'd try at that distance). It costs less to shoot than a 50cal and you don't need a special press to reload it, provided your using a RCBS Rock chucker or something that size.
The Cheytac may be a niche cartrige right now but it has been around for a quite a few years now and is still growing in popularity, at least the wilcats are.
Dave
Great post Dave42
