Browning A Bolt or Ruger M77 Hawkeye?

I would speculate that the Browning would be a hair more accurate but the Ruger would be more robust. I own one example of each and they both do their jobs well. The Ruger is a 416 Rigby RSM and the Browning is a custom 25-06 on a Stainless action.
 
bunny said:
What is wrong with a detachable magazine you can't load from the top or get at whithout opening the floor plate :rolleyes:
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The Browning is as easy to top-load as any rifle.

Fit and finish on the Brownings is MUCH better than the Hawkeyes. IMHO the Brownings are also more accurate out of the box than the new Rugers and do not require any "tweaking" to shoot well.
 
I might of accidentally started quite a debate here. I have been leaning toward's the Browning because it's free floated and lighter. I have never had a 50mm scope before neither and I was wondering if a 3-9x50 Bushnell Legend would fit on the Browning with the weaver tip-off mount's because they have worked good for me before.
 
I'd take the American made gun made of steel and wood over the plasticky Japanese made Browning, that goes for the X-bolt as well. Browning seems to be big on flash with little substance IMHO, cosmetic things, just to look good in the shop, to lure the unsuspecting buyer.
 
ruger,no question.The browning may be slightly more accurate out of the box-maybe.It would vary from rifle to rifle.The ruger is a very reliable and well made rifle that will stand up to alot of abuse.The ruger is also slightly heavier,unless you are after sheep/goat it shouldn't matter much.
 
I prefer the Ruger:

-Controlled feed
-Floorplate magazine as opposed to the Browning's worst of both worlds system
-Intergral scope bases and rings are included
-More "classic" appearance. Also available as M77 MkII with gloss bluing.

Browning should go back to making proper rifles like the Mauser-actioned ones they used to sell. Also, they should lose the gold triggers and gaudy urethane stock finishes.
 
tjhaile said:
I prefer the Ruger:

-Controlled feed
-Floorplate magazine as opposed to the Browning's worst of both worlds system
-Intergral scope bases and rings are included
-More "classic" appearance. Also available as M77 MkII with gloss bluing.

Browning should go back to making proper rifles like the Mauser-actioned ones they used to sell. Also, they should lose the gold triggers and gaudy urethane stock finishes.
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Golden triggers rock!!! :rockOn: They have also been proven to lighten trigger pull by at least 3 pounds!
 
4 A-Bolts and about a dozen Rugers.

You??
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I have fired several A-Bolts,as well as several Ruger rifles,but none of the Rugers were the Hawkeye model,and I didn't have the opportunity to do load development for more than a couple of A-bolts and Rugers,so I don't make claims as to which is more accurate.
How many of those Rugers that you fired were the Hawkeye model,and how many of each rifle did you develop loads for?
 
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I might of accidentally started quite a debate here. I have been leaning toward's the Browning because it's free floated and lighter. I have never had a 50mm scope before neither and I was wondering if a 3-9x50 Bushnell Legend would fit on the Browning with the weaver tip-off mount's because they have worked good for me before.
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Whichever rifle you get save up and buy a better scope. The Elite series, the VX3's, the Zeiss Conquest's to name a few. One should generally spend as much money on a scope as one does on a rifle.

As far as the rifles, they are both fine and it will come down to what you like best. We will all debate what we like best...
 
Gibson said:
I might of accidentally started quite a debate here. I have been leaning toward's the Browning because it's free floated and lighter. I have never had a 50mm scope before neither and I was wondering if a 3-9x50 Bushnell Legend would fit on the Browning with the weaver tip-off mount's because they have worked good for me before.
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You don't need a 50mm objective. At all. Even a little. Get the 4200 in a 3-9x40 or a Burris Signature in 3-9x or the VX3 Leupoold in 2.5-8x and you'll be laughing.
 
ruger or browning

I bought a browning in 270 with a boss system and traded it off to a friend for a brand new ruger 270 stainless laminated stock , did;nt like the browning as it did;nt look reliable . it shot very nice and was accurate but my ruger is built like a tank and the trigger is more than fine And I;d rather go into the bush with something I felt was not going to let me down than something I felt might . your choice .
 
Claven2 said:
I should point out also that the Ruger can be easily free floated as well, and either rifle would benefit from being glass bedded.

Detachable mags are, IMHO, just another thing to lose. This is not an AR, its a bolt gun - fast mag changes are a non-starter as far as I see it. Hinged floor plates are more robust anyhow.

I also disagree the trigger is better on the A-bolt. The new Ruger triggers are really good though both types would benefit from a good stone job on the sear.

The Ruger has a Winchester-70 style safety (though it works differently internally). If you need to have a tang safety (can't imagine why), get a used Ruger M77 MkI instead of the MkII.

And you're right - after the 710, the A-bolt is a perenial whipping boy around here - LOL.
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Wow....lots wrong with this.

The original poster specifically mentions new rifles. He's probably not interested in a 20-year-old tang-safety Ruger. he also may not be interested in one that requires bedding or free-floating.

Can't imagine why someone needs a tang safety? Well, ignoring the fact that I never said I NEEDED one, which makes me irritated at being misquoted, I was raised hunting with a Winchester 94. When there's game in sight, my natural instinct is to reach for the hammer with my right thumb. Hence the PREFERENCE for a tang safety. So now you know, and didn't have to use any imagination.

As to the fast mag changes, once again you're making baseless assumptions. At what point did I say I wanted fast mag changes? I personally prefer the detach mag for the simplicity of the load and unload. Drop the mag, pull the bolt back to eject the chambered round. Done. No extra loose cartridges.

One thing I neglected to say about the Ruger. Besides looking better, its stock feels much better to me, and features wraparound checkering.
 
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