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Is the 1911 as good a handgun as some people believe? I don't know much about handguns and when i buy one, i don't want to buy an expensive piece of metal worth no more than it's weight in steel.

As impractical as it might be here in Canada, anyone have any feedback on the revolvers that shoot .45's and .410?

Where i hunt for grouse, i think it would work considering how close i usually can get, but i can't or should i say, shouldn't use it for that.
 
no hunting with restricted firearms anyway.

I just started shooting the 1911, I fell in love with the platform (in 45acp, cant speak for other calibers)
 
I love the 1911 platform... something about it just feels right to me... but I think it is all personal preference in terms of guns...

But ya, no restricted firearms can be taken out hunting...
 
The 1911 design has been around for almost 100years. There are reasons for that: it works, and it really is as good as some people think it is. I am not completely biased; in addition to my .45ACP 1911 Kimber Custom II, I also own a Smith&Wesson M&P 9mm and a .22 Sig Mosquito. Of all of them I shoot the .22 the most because it's the cheapest ammo, the M&P is a lot of fun, but I LOVE my 1911 Kimber. The next guy may very well think I'm nuts, and disagree with me... try a good one (Kimber, STI or Para for example) and see what you think.

Canada does not allow hunting with handguns. You want a challenge hunting grouse, use a .22 rifle. That's fun!
 
1911's. When they work, they are the greatest handgun ever made.

When they don't, you ask yourself if you would ever trust your life with one.

They each have their own personality, that's for sure.
 
I think I have some sort of weird aversion to them.

I've always wanted one. How can you beat a 100 year old war winner?

Yet everytime I pick one up it just feels wrong in my hand for some reason. And most times when I see someone shooting one, they're wrestling with it or changing something out on it or something - just turns me off.

Perhaps I've only handled / seen only cheaper 1911s and the more expensive ones are better tuned.

Or they're just not for me. They may not be for you either. I would try to feel one up first. Even better, shoot one first.
 
I think I have some sort of weird aversion to them.

I've always wanted one. How can you beat a 100 year old war winner?

Yet everytime I pick one up it just feels wrong in my hand for some reason. And most times when I see someone shooting one, they're wrestling with it or changing something out on it or something - just turns me off.

Perhaps I've only handled / seen only cheaper 1911s and the more expensive ones are better tuned.

Or they're just not for me. They may not be for you either. I would try to feel one up first. Even better, shoot one first.

Are you in Quebec?:D
I've had quite a bit of trouble with my 1911 2 weeks ago so I was "wrestlin" around alot.

It had nothing to do with my pistol, it had only to do with my reloads. Expanding die not properly set, rounds not chambering softly.:redface:
 
Well... On Monday night at the pistol club..... BOY was I glad I got there early..... One of the guys just got in a Snake slayer derringer pistol, it shoots .410 & .45 long colt..... What a pretty little unit...... Completely useless over 12 yrds, but pretty fun to shoot!

At 10yrds the shot pattern was about 3 feet in diameter. I am sure it would get progressivly worse a longer ranges.

About 4 of us tried the .45 colt at 25yrds..... We didn't even hit paper.... We were shooting at a full body silhoette!

The barrel is 4 1/2" with about an inch of rifling at the end (it accepts 3 1/2 .410 shot shells...... thus the short rifling)

My hand still hurts from shooting the little bugger the grip only fits about 2" into the hand so all the recoil is absorbed buy the small area between the web and the thumb.....

What a blast to shoot!!!

Oh yeah....... The trigger pull..... about 20lbs.... Crazy hard, I actually checked to see if the saftey was on the first time I tried to shoot it!

I am not sure if I would spend the grand it costs..... But I sure am glad my fellow range member did!

Cheers!
 
I own a 1911 as well as a M&P 40, I'd have to say that the M&P just feels more natural in my hand (I have medium size hands). Funny thing is.............I can shoot the 1911 better than the M&P 40, I think it may be the weight of the 1911 absorbing the recoil.
 
I'm not one of those who believe that the 1911 made every other handgun design superfluous, but my Gold Cup is the one gun in my collection that I wouldn't trade for anything else. If you haven't already, handle and shoot a good quality 1911; Colt, Springfield, S&W, Para-Ordinance... If you like it you should get one. If you don't, look at other stuff.
 
I have own 1911's for the last 20 years and I'm still looking for a pistol on the today market that cannot be just another copy of the original J.Brown pistol.
I shot and own most of them and the 1911 pistols NEVER let me down when has to go "bang"...
Hey, now I have my Kimber SS CII 45 and it's tight, reliable and accurate out of the box and after aprox 5K rounds it's just another 1911 without any FTF, FTL, FTE !!!
I never had on my wish list a plastic gun...
 
Don't let the cost thing fool you, the key to a reliable, accurate 1911 isn't how many dollars you throw into it. The key is getting a pistol that is correctly set up, they should come that way from the factory, and many do, but in my experience some factories allow speed to get in the way of precision. Since any maker can produce a bad gun you're best bet is to get a gun from someone who can make it right.
 
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I think I have some sort of weird aversion to them.

I've always wanted one. How can you beat a 100 year old war winner?

Yet everytime I pick one up it just feels wrong in my hand for some reason. And most times when I see someone shooting one, they're wrestling with it or changing something out on it or something - just turns me off.

Perhaps I've only handled / seen only cheaper 1911s and the more expensive ones are better tuned.

Or they're just not for me. They may not be for you either. I would try to feel one up first. Even better, shoot one first.

My friend, if the 1911 isn't for you, it isn't for you. Try out the other guns availible and find the right gun for you.
 
I started with a 9mm but after shooting a 1911 I knew I wanted one of those as well. A whole other feel to shooting them. But if they don't fit your hand then they don't fit.

My own 1911 isn't one of the more stellar blocks of metal you can buy. It's become a project gun for me with a few changes done already and more to come. But other than dealing with a heavy trigger pull it's always gone BOOM when I pulled the trigger and had no issues with ejecting or loading. However it does feel right in the hand (single stack) and I really love owning a bit of classic history even if it is a Johnny come Lately brand. But if it doesn't feel right then it's time to move on. However if all your pistol shooting was done with modern double stack blocky grip shapes then you may just not be able to adapt in the short term. Only you can answer that one and figure out if you've been assimilated or it really does not fit your hands.

Spend a bit more and buy a recognized brand like Kimber or STI, have a good 1911 smith do some trigger lovin' to it if it needs it and I doubt you'll have any regrets.... other than the cost of ammo for it that is... :D
 
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"...just feels wrong in my hand..." Stock grips? Try one with rubber grips and a flat mainspring housing. A flat mainspring housing can cause you to shoot low, but it changes the feel.
"...or changing something..." Some people just want to try every gizmo that comes along. My Colt has had the sights changed(should have put on adjustables), a trigger job and Pachmayr grips and nothing else. Shot Bullseye with it. Scary accurate with my handloads. Good ammo is essential.
 
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