First Time Shottie!

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Paulusmaximus2

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It is loooong overdue, but i finally got my first gun thanks to a member on here and it is a single shot cooey.

After shooting off about 100 rounds at various "reactive" targets, I am glad my first gun is a shottie!

OW! :D

who knew that the diffrence between 2 3/4 and 3" was sooo painful! lol, i can't imagine you guys with the 3 1/2s!!

Time to hit the old gym and build up my shoulders ha ha.
 
Try shooting 3" magnum shells with just a pistol grip. That isn't pleasant. I loaded up all the tube in my 18" 870 with them and after half I was regretting filling it up all the way. But here's a warning, ALWAYS SHOOT PISTOL GRIP ONLY SHOTGUNS FROM THE HIP! RISK TO YOUR NOSE IS TOO GREAT OTHERWISE!!!
 
In my opinion, Cooey shotguns were invented to teach people to use the minimum amount of ammunition possible to get what needed to be done.

Doesn't 100 shots start to cause mild brain damage from the whiplash?

haha.. my beater H&R shotgun is the same way but my pumps both seem to be a little nicer. Especially the Winchester, it's a light gun but had a huge soft rubber recoil pad.

Maybe find one of the slip on kinds of pad for the shotgun to make it more pleasant.

Or just keep buying more guns :)
 
Paulusmaximus2 said:
who knew that the diffrence between 2 3/4 and 3" was sooo painful! lol, i can't imagine you guys with the 3 1/2s!!

Time to hit the old gym and build up my shoulders ha ha.
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The vast majority of Cooeys were chambered in 2 3/4". If that's the case with yours, a 3" shell WILL FIT into the chamber (because the chamber is 1/4" longer than the unfired shell - to leave room for the crimp to open into when the shell is fired). Although the 3" will fit and Cooeys are [generally] strong enough to keep you from blowing your head off, you shouldn't fire 3" shells through a 2 3/4" chambered gun.

The recoil on a magnum shell SHOULD be greater than a lighter load. But, it shouldn't be as you describe - which is one of the clues that yours is probably 2 3/4". The extra felt recoil comes from the fact that the crimp on the 3" shells has no place to open into except the forcing cone. This unintended constriction of the forcing cone drives the pressures way up (read: bad news). Do yourself and your shoulder a favor, confirm the chambering on that gun and stick to the loads it was built for. BTW. Heavier loads do not equal better patterns or longer effective killing range. That's B.S. Read W.W. Greener's book "The Gun" if you don't believe me.

Oh, and just because I'm a "grumpy old man", as the wetbacks on this site call us, I feel compelled to tell you to drop the "shottie". A shottie is a one ounce shot at a bar, ordered by an 18 yr. old girl or a ###. What you bought is a gun (you don't even have to call it a shotgun because, if it's a firearm and it ain't a shotgun, it's a rifle, a pistol, or a revolver. The term shotgun or simply "gun" refers to a smoothbore long gun.)
 
Have fun, that Cooey will serve you well over the years. But I think you'll climb the ladder 50 times on many different models to come. Congrats and welcome to the addiction!!
 
MrMatt said:
I'm not sure if you can shoot slugs from your shotgun, but they're quite a bit of fun too.
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Yes he can. What he can't shoot through that gun is steel shot (or any shells longer than 2 3/4"). As it happens, steel shot is the only legitimate reason to use a 3 or 3 1/2" shell.
 
straightshooter said:
The vast majority of Cooeys were chambered in 2 3/4". If that's the case with yours, a 3" shell WILL FIT into the chamber (because the chamber is 1/4" longer than the unfired shell - to leave room for the crimp to open into when the shell is fired). Although the 3" will fit and Cooeys are [generally] strong enough to keep you from blowing your head off, you shouldn't fire 3" shells through a 2 3/4" chambered gun.

The recoil on a magnum shell SHOULD be greater than a lighter load. But, it shouldn't be as you describe - which is one of the clues that yours is probably 2 3/4". The extra felt recoil comes from the fact that the crimp on the 3" shells has no place to open into except the forcing cone. This unintended constriction of the forcing cone drives the pressures way up (read: bad news). Do yourself and your shoulder a favor, confirm the chambering on that gun and stick to the loads it was built for. BTW. Heavier loads do not equal better patterns or longer effective killing range. That's B.S. Read W.W. Greener's book "The Gun" if you don't believe me.

Oh, and just because I'm a "grumpy old man", as the wetbacks on this site call us, I feel compelled to tell you to drop the "shottie". A shottie is a one ounce shot at a bar, ordered by an 18 yr. old girl or a ###. What you bought is a gun (you don't even have to call it a shotgun because, if it's a firearm and it ain't a shotgun, it's a rifle, a pistol, or a revolver. The term shotgun or simply "gun" refers to a smoothbore long gun.)
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My cooey says on the barrel 12 gauge 2 3/4 and 3, does what you say still apply? is it just for marketing? I'm asking because i don't know, not because i'm being a smartass. I will be getting it checked soon, i need to pick up some chokes anyway and need to see what fits.

the diffrent loads i was using were 2 3/4 6's and 3 inch 4's copper plated turkey loads.

and i will cease to call it a shottie.

i have been shooting pellet rifles most of my life, so i did not have a flinch going into yesterday ha ha. And it has an after market recoil pad fitted. i think the reason it was so shocking/jarring is because i was sooo used to the .175 caliber under 500 fps loads. :D

yes i have my RPAL and as soon as i get an ATT i will have to try out a pistol to begin with and see where my fancy takes me.
 
Paulusmaximus2 said:
Well then i guess there are no reasons for me to use 3's

2 3/4 are generally cheaper and funner to shoot and if they offer no big advantage i will stick to them.
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Smart thinkin'.

The answer to your previous question is: No, if the barrel is marked 2 3/4 & 3", your gun was chambered for shells up to 3" long. You'd be safe to fire 3" mags but, as you now know, there's no advantage to doing so and the recoil is greater. In your case, since constriction of the forcing cone is clearly not the reason for the added recoil, the reason is actually the load (which refers to the amount of shot in the shell - not the powder) and the charge (the amount of powder). Felt recoil is a factor of the weight of the load and the size of the charge vs. the weight of the gun (remember your 'action - reaction' lessons in physics).

One way of reducing felt recoil (should you ever WANT to fire 3" shells for whatever reason), is to add to the weight of the gun. This should not be done willy nilly, as adding all the weight to one place will throw off the balance of the gun. Still, if you're just shooting at stuff with slugs, the balance may not be such a big concern. If out in the field hunting, though, I'd advise a more measured approach to adding weight. A nice decelerator pad is also effective, if not already installed.

Enjoy your new gun. My first firearm was also a Cooey single (36 years ago).
 
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