I know this sounds like a stupid idea but how difficult would it be to modify a remington 700 stock to fit a M14? I'm just trying to get an idea for mounting a recoil absorbing stock and the two options for using the Blackhawk would be to use the stock that fits the remington 700 or to use the knoxx folder stock that would fit a remington 870.
Remington 700 Stock
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I was looking at the Axiom U/L Rifle Stock which is available for a Remington 700 or the Howa. It is a complete stock with recoil suppression built in into the pistol grip and buttstock with a fibreglass and aluminum receiver and adjustable buttstock. I was just wondering how difficult it would be to alter this to fit a M14.
I did read about Lazerous's folding stock and if I did use a folding stock I would use the SpecOps Folder Shotgun Stock as it is a top folder and has recoil suppression built into the pistol grip. Can likely use Lazerous's technique. But would prefer the Axiom if possible and not to expensive or complicated.
Was just curious to see if it was worth the time and effort to try the Remington stock. I've never placed a 700 stock and a M14 stock side by side to see the difference. Thought someone might know.
I did read about Lazerous's folding stock and if I did use a folding stock I would use the SpecOps Folder Shotgun Stock as it is a top folder and has recoil suppression built into the pistol grip. Can likely use Lazerous's technique. But would prefer the Axiom if possible and not to expensive or complicated.
Was just curious to see if it was worth the time and effort to try the Remington stock. I've never placed a 700 stock and a M14 stock side by side to see the difference. Thought someone might know.
"... never placed a 700 stock and an M14 stock side by side to see the difference..." It's more the two rifles. Mind you, there's not enough felt recoil with an M305 or an M1A or a real semi-d M14 to bother with a recoil reducing stock.
Look at an exploded drawing of each rifle. Totally different.
http://stevespages.com/ipb-remington-700.html
http://stevespages.com/ipb-springfield-m1a.html
Look at an exploded drawing of each rifle. Totally different.
http://stevespages.com/ipb-remington-700.html
http://stevespages.com/ipb-springfield-m1a.html
Maybe I'm a wimp but after shooting about 160 rounds at a practice service rifle shoot, I was done.
But thanks for the drawings. It does look like I can carve out parts of the 700 stock to fit the M14 but I guess I would actually have to put them side by side to see. I figured that no one had used a 700 stock for an M14 but it couldn't hurt to ask.
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"...carve out parts of the 700 stock to fit..." Not likely enough wood in the forestock to clear the gas system.
"...I was done..." With an M305 with a synthetic stock? What ammo? My Winchester with the issue synthetic stock is quite comfortable to shoot all day. Get an M1A wood stock with a wide butt plate, if you can find one. Increases the weight a wee bit and spreads the felt recoil over a larger area. That'll help absorb the felt recoil.
You can put on a slip-on recoil pad too. Takes a bit of modification to get it over the aft sling swivel though. Pachmayr makes on that won't cost a fortune. Adds about an inchto the stock length though.
"...I was done..." With an M305 with a synthetic stock? What ammo? My Winchester with the issue synthetic stock is quite comfortable to shoot all day. Get an M1A wood stock with a wide butt plate, if you can find one. Increases the weight a wee bit and spreads the felt recoil over a larger area. That'll help absorb the felt recoil.
You can put on a slip-on recoil pad too. Takes a bit of modification to get it over the aft sling swivel though. Pachmayr makes on that won't cost a fortune. Adds about an inchto the stock length though.
An M14 rifle and an M700 Rem stock are mechanically incompatible.
I've never found recoil to be a problem with an M14 or M1 Garand provided that a tight hold is maintained.I find that the stock design and the weight of these rifles, along with the recoil attenuation of their gas system,makes them quite a mild proposition to shoot.I never liked the stock design of the FN though,and found that it could be a bit of a mule towards the end of a day on the range,but again a tight hold helped a lot.
You might consider wearing a strap on recoil pad.You might also try filling the butt well with a lead weight to diminish the felt recoil by increasing the inertia of the rifle itself.
I've never found recoil to be a problem with an M14 or M1 Garand provided that a tight hold is maintained.I find that the stock design and the weight of these rifles, along with the recoil attenuation of their gas system,makes them quite a mild proposition to shoot.I never liked the stock design of the FN though,and found that it could be a bit of a mule towards the end of a day on the range,but again a tight hold helped a lot.
You might consider wearing a strap on recoil pad.You might also try filling the butt well with a lead weight to diminish the felt recoil by increasing the inertia of the rifle itself.
I have the replacement butt pad you are refering to and it works great! If I remember it cost me about $25 shipped from Brownell's (when the Canadian dollar was worth a lot more). It did not add much to the length.
I think fabsports sells them now and Fabrice is excellent to deal with. Plus he's a sponsor.
Wenig custom gun stocks. Not cheap, but I'd wager that you'll be very happy with the results. You ca nspecify exactly what you want for a recoil pad, and what you want the overall length of pull to be.
You'll probably have to fine-tune the fit slightly and finish it yourself, but that's a small price to pay.
You'll probably have to fine-tune the fit slightly and finish it yourself, but that's a small price to pay.
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This is a puzzling question. Is the M700 "stock" perceived as being more flexible or a better shape to reduce recoil compared to the M14S? It seems like asking if a Honda is as good at stopping at red lights as a Mazda?
All guns recoil. Heavier rifles of the same cartridge will have less recoil as lighter weight rifles. It is physics. The gas system of an M14S does bleed gas and counteract the felt recoil. A bolt action is straight back, well upwards rotating on the shoulder.
The cheek placement and shoulder pocket will account for some amount of discomfort. A better shoulder placement and tighter cheek weld should have with that.
All guns recoil. Heavier rifles of the same cartridge will have less recoil as lighter weight rifles. It is physics. The gas system of an M14S does bleed gas and counteract the felt recoil. A bolt action is straight back, well upwards rotating on the shoulder.
The cheek placement and shoulder pocket will account for some amount of discomfort. A better shoulder placement and tighter cheek weld should have with that.
I think that the OP's idea was to use a specific recoil-reducing stock. I don't thnk that anyone makes one for the M14/M1A, but they make them for the 700 and the 870 (I've got a Knoxx stock on my 870, and it makes a big difference when firing a lot of slugs)
That's correct. I was just looking for something that would work at reducing the recoil and the knoxx stock looked pretty good as was not as expensive as getting others like the marstar's or sage. I was really just thinking out loud and wanted to utilize the combined knowledge of the gunnuzt members.
Thanks.
