Glock 17 range report: UPDATE RESULTS

[Onagoth]

So, after months of waiting (approx 1.5 months for a club level safety course and 7 weeks for my ATT) I have finally gotten out to the range to shoot.

I shot about 325 rounds today, with 200 of those being reloads. I did have problems with my reloads, if you can help, check out this thread http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=348633

I shot all the factory rounds without a single FTF or FTE, but my accuracy is another issue.

Our club only allows shooting at 25 m and 50 m, so I was stuck shooting way further than what I would like to start out at, but what can I do.

Here is my first target with factory ammo

And my second, with factory ammo,

And my next two, with reloads

I would like to say I progressed, but that might be a stretch. Not all that bad for my first time out though, I don't think anyways.

I gotta say, I measured my trigger and it was at 8lbs, I found this really tough to get used too, especially since I am used to shooting my rifle at 2 lbs with no creep.

I tried to put into practice everything I have researched and watched online, but I guess now its just practicing and developing the muscle memory. Think I might look more closely at the 3.5 disconnector as well.

If you got any tips, let me know, I couldn't decide if I preferred a perfect isosceles stance or a stance that slightly canted my left foot forward.

 

[Justins1877]

You`re shooting better then 90% of the police officers out there. Keep working on your aim, trigger control, target sight picture, follow through is important as well.

Good luck.

 

[beltfed]

I'd find another range...

 

[Grantmac]

1.5 months for a safey course to let you shoot on a 25m conventional range? I'd be seriously investigating another club with a more pistol shooting based mentality.
Do they allow holsters and rapid firing?

 

[venom_bullet]

x2 thats kinda strict

 

[xsv420]

There's a little trick with Glocks you can do. After you fire the first shot, don't release the trigger all the way, just a bit. The trigger pull of the next shot will be a lot shorter. Hope this helps

 

[promac]

Notice Onagoth is in Ontario..........I had to do at least 6 probationary shoots - I think it might be more now (one per week) to qualify to pass the club level handgun safety course, so you're looking at spending at least 6 weeks to get your paperwork in order just to send it to the CFO.

Keep practicing......you're doing great!

 

[TDC]

Notice Onagoth is in Ontario..........I had to do at least 6 probationary shoots - I think it might be more now (one per week) to qualify to pass the club level handgun safety course, so you're looking at spending at least 6 weeks to get your paperwork in order just to send it to the CFO.

Keep practicing......you're doing great!

Quick question. Is this type of BS normal for ranges in Ontario? Also, is this a club requirement or some provincial requirement?

TDC

 

[Onagoth]

I'd find another range...

Thats in the works for next year, looking into indoor ranges with machine target holders. Might join a pistol only range since I don't shoot much trap or rifle anymore.

There's a little trick with Glocks you can do. After you fire the first shot, don't release the trigger all the way, just a bit. The trigger pull of the next shot will be a lot shorter. Hope this helps

Thanks for the tip, the full reset does have quite a bit of creep and I found myself squeezing the trigger expecting a bang, but not getting it until even more creep was taken out.

Notice Onagoth is in Ontario..........I had to do at least 6 probationary shoots - I think it might be more now (one per week) to qualify to pass the club level handgun safety course, so you're looking at spending at least 6 weeks to get your paperwork in order just to send it to the CFO.

Keep practicing......you're doing great!

While we are not quite this bad, (you must be from BRRC right?) We did have some practical shooting as part of our club level course, but no probationary shoots

Quick question. Is this type of BS normal for ranges in Ontario? Also, is this a club requirement or some provincial requirement?

TDC

Not normal from what I understand. My club only offers safety courses once per year, other clubs offer them once per month. Also, after the course was completed, it took my club almost 3.5 weeks to send the info to the CFO because of some mix up CFO processed my ATT in about 10 days, but it still took weeks for the handgun ATT guy at my club to actually get me my ATT. I called the CFO 3 times, twice asking for a faxed copy, they wouldn't give it to me.

 

[Cerdan]

Quick question. Is this type of BS normal for ranges in Ontario? Also, is this a club requirement or some provincial requirement?

TDC

Strictly a club requirement. At the indoor range I frequent, you have to prove rimfire proficiency before being allowed to shoot centrefire. No minimum amount of range time required though. It's simply a question of proving to the RO you can put ten .22s on the paper at 20m. I think they want to limit the amount of holes they get in the ceiling.

 

[RockChucker]

Don't get me wrong. Get closer to your target !

 

[tiriaq]

Starting at closer range can be good for building confidance, but the basic principles involved in firing the perfect shot apply at any range. It would be really helpful if you could get some formal instruction from a qualified teacher.
325 rounds is a lot of shooting in one day, particularly when you are working at mastering the basics.

 

[MET]

Our Ontario club has a 3 month probation period,you must complete the range safety course and get 12 signatures,after all that, a ATT is issued,from there we are required to get 10 signatures throughout the year prooving we used the range.

 

[Onagoth]

Don't get me wrong. Get closer to your target !

Can't, minimum 25 m shooting distance.

Starting at closer range can be good for building confidance, but the basic principles involved in firing the perfect shot apply at any range. It would be really helpful if you could get some formal instruction from a qualified teacher.
325 rounds is a lot of shooting in one day, particularly when you are working at mastering the basics.

See above.....As to your other point, 325 rounds is a lot, but I had to make up for lost time, the 3 months I spent waiting to shoot

Our Ontario club has a 3 month probation period,you must complete the range safety course and get 12 signatures,after all that, a ATT is issued,from there we are required to get 10 signatures throughout the year prooving we used the range.

That's retarded. I really don't understand some ranges, the idea is to get more people into shooting, not deter them/get people out of shooting.

 

[novega]

Our Ontario club has a 3 month probation period,you must complete the range safety course and get 12 signatures,after all that, a ATT is issued,from there we are required to get 10 signatures throughout the year prooving we used the range.

Not required to answer a skill testing question? Not required to wrestle a grizzly with your bare hands?
pffftt....they make it too easy to get a gun in Ontario! I think what we need is more government oversight!!!

 

[Stevo]

Can't, minimum 25 m shooting distance.

Can't even put up a portable target stand 10m from the line?

 

[Onagoth]

Can't even put up a portable target stand 10m from the line?

Nope, I didn't understand it myself because our backstop is at 50 meters. It doesn't matter if you shoot at 10, 15, 25 or 50, they all hit the same backstop. But according to our club rules, targets must be setup at 25 and 50 meters

 

[Rottboy_8]

At 25m

So, after months of waiting (approx 1.5 months for a club level safety course and 7 weeks for my ATT) I have finally gotten out to the range to shoot. I shot about 325 rounds ......................................................................
If you got any tips, let me know, I couldn't decide if I preferred a perfect isosceles stance or a stance that slightly canted my left foot forward.

Think thats pretty good from a standing stance at 25m. Others can correct me but if I read correctly (somewhere) for a pistol, in real live stress situations, distances are from 1-15m.
25m and 50m is great, as a start, to practice your accuracy and techniques, but to enjoy your Glock further, I agree with others, join a club that allows shorter distances to the target. Better yet, sign up for an IPSC or IDPA course. You'll end up buying more Glocks!!! Happy shooting

 

[koalorka]

25 m, not bad at all.

 

[Onagoth]

Think thats pretty good from a standing stance at 25m. Others can correct me but if I read correctly (somewhere) for a pistol, in real live stress situations, distances are from 1-15m.
25m and 50m is great, as a start, to practice your accuracy and techniques, but to enjoy your Glock further, I agree with others, join a club that allows shorter distances to the target. Better yet, sign up for an IPSC or IDPA course. You'll end up buying more Glocks!!! Happy shooting

One step ahead of you my friend. Joined IDPA a little while ago, got my holster cert and within the next couple weeks I will really be taking an IDPA focus in my shooting.