shorty over under

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So, I was watching a preview for "the spirit" movie last night, and saw Samuel L Jackson weilding a pair of sawed off over under (CZ redhead) shotguns....made me think hmmmm, maybe the powers that be...who created my outlaw....could make something like this happen with a 12.5" barrel, and a stock, and make it non restricted????:cool:http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:IMG_1298.JPG[/IMG]
 
Haha I doubt you could even shoot those without it spraining your wrist...

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Each to their own, but I won't own a shotgun so short that I could inadvertently fire it with my support hand in front of the muzzle should I have to use the gun in an emergency. Neither do I care for pistol grip only guns, but that is a marksmanship issue rather than a safety issue. The short double is likely sought for one of two reasons, most commonly because it looks cool, but secondly for some defensive application. In any adrenalin charged action, if something can go wrong it probably will, and ballistic amputation is not something I care to experience.
 
I'd love to see a purpose built 12ga handgun, which is what the one's pictured here would be. I agree that it'd be almost entirely based on a "look cool" factor, but that's as good a reason as any. I also believe, if you held it like a pistol, not a shotgun, the danger factor is nullified. It's possible, and it's happened for people to shoot their support hand with pistols, but it's rare, and usually the result of more than one concurrent handling error/equipment malfunction. So, when can I buy one ;) (I've got an Outlaw, that needs a little brother)
 
I'd like a short over under with ejectors instead of extractors. Make it black with porting for the barrels and a rail on the bottom so you can attach a vertical grip to "crack" it open real fast for quick reloads. I'd take mine with a shoulder stock in 12 gauge.
 
curtmg said:
I'd love to see a purpose built 12ga handgun, which is what the one's pictured here would be. I agree that it'd be almost entirely based on a "look cool" factor, but that's as good a reason as any. I also believe, if you held it like a pistol, not a shotgun, the danger factor is nullified. It's possible, and it's happened for people to shoot their support hand with pistols, but it's rare, and usually the result of more than one concurrent handling error/equipment malfunction. So, when can I buy one ;) (I've got an Outlaw, that needs a little brother)
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I agree holding the short shotgun in the manner of a handgun nulifies any danger, but if the gun is equipped with a butt stock and a very short barrel, and if used in stressfull situations; the short barrel length, at the very least, makes an accident possible. Add to the mix a slippery gun surface in cold wet conditions, a surge of adrenalin, and the possibility becomes more than chance.

Purchasing a gun because you like "the look" is certainly legitimate, but my comments were to differentiate between the individual who purchases a gun for esthetic reasons and the individual who purhases for serious duty. My long guns will always be equipped with a buttstock because I can't hit anything with a pistol grip only hold; speed and power must be balanced with accuracy.

For this reason I would be unhappy with a pump with a barrel shorter than 14" or a double with barrels shorter than 18". I admit that I think the 8"-12" pump poses a greater danger than does the short double due to the need to forcefully move your hand towards the muzzle when cycling the action. However, a very short double that is picked up and fired under stress in difficult conditions could also result in a disaster. If you choose one of these short barrel options, at least be aware of the potential.
 
Boomer said:
For this reason I would be unhappy with a pump with a barrel shorter than 14" or a double with barrels shorter than 18".
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I agree. The ultra short guns are fine for playing and posing but for anything resembling actual use a little more length is preferable.
 
curtmg said:
I'd love to see a purpose built 12ga handgun, which is what the one's pictured here would be. I agree that it'd be almost entirely based on a "look cool" factor, but that's as good a reason as any. I also believe, if you held it like a pistol, not a shotgun, the danger factor is nullified. It's possible, and it's happened for people to shoot their support hand with pistols, but it's rare, and usually the result of more than one concurrent handling error/equipment malfunction. So, when can I buy one ;) (I've got an Outlaw, that needs a little brother)
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I think a 28 gauge firing round balls would make a dandy howdah pistol and might even be controllable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howdah_pistol
 
I saw a Chuck movie where he had a stainless sawed off over/under, it appeared to be legal length with a wooden pistol grip. It sure made burger outta the bad guys.....but some here say Chuckles wouldn't need a 12 gauge.
 
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