Afganistan M-43 headstamps and taliban

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Interesting article about m-43 ammo and guns being diverted to the taliban

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/20/world/asia/20ammo.html
 
A whole lot of military aid supplied to Pakistan by the U.S. has gone to the Taliban.

Afghans ask why is it Americans are fighting the Taliban but then support the Taliban by supplying Pakistan with money and arms.

Read Descent into Chaos: The United States and the Failure of Nation Building in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Central Asia by Ahmad Rashid and you'll get the picture of how FUBAR American policy with regard to Pakistan has been...
 
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Read Descent into Chaos: The United States and the Failure of Nation Building in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Central Asia by Ahmad Rashid and you'll get the picture of how FUBAR American policy with regard to Pakistan has been...

Good book.
 
Well diversion of supplies is one scenario. Of course there is also a) capture of supplies in battle b) desertion from one side to the other c) misidentification of the corpses.
 
Look on the bright side fellas, you can't have a decent war if your enemy doesn't have decent weapons. Just be glad they've got banana mag envy like everyone else and aren't hiding in invisible sangars at 1000 yards lobbing in the .303 and 7.62x57R at all hours of the day and night. Maybe they'll forget how to shoot at more than 50 yards if this keeps up! :sniper:
 
Look on the bright side fellas, you can't have a decent war if your enemy doesn't have decent weapons. Just be glad they've got banana mag envy like everyone else and aren't hiding in invisible sangars at 1000 yards lobbing in the .303 and 7.62x57R at all hours of the day and night. Maybe they'll forget how to shoot at more than 50 yards if this keeps up! :sniper:

Some of the talis are pretty good shots.
 
Agreed, they have been fighting with Kalashnikovs for more than 30 years now.
You would be surprised how hardy and effective the Pashtuns are with what they are limited with.

Actually I wouldn't be surprised at all. The Pathans and their neighbors are born fighters, and some of the toughest people alive. War is their national sport and has been for centuries. The British used to get lots of excellent training opportunities up on the North West Frontier; practically an annual event.

I'd guess the preponderance of AKs etc. is more due to what they could capture in both ammo and rifles and the everlasting seduction of 'volume of fire'. Handy at close quarters, but when standing off in the hills at 1500 or 2000 yards a full size cartridge is a lot more use. But maybe they're going in more for close-quarters these days?
 
Well diversion of supplies is one scenario. Of course there is also a) capture of supplies in battle b) desertion from one side to the other c) misidentification of the corpses.

Your a) through c) were insiginificant in comparison to US "support" to the Pakistani Government/Military and ISI (Pakistani Intelligence) ostensibly to fight terrorism who then turned around and handed the stufff to the Taliban.
 
Actually I wouldn't be surprised at all. The Pathans and their neighbors are born fighters, and some of the toughest people alive. War is their national sport and has been for centuries. The British used to get lots of excellent training opportunities up on the North West Frontier; practically an annual event.

I'd guess the preponderance of AKs etc. is more due to what they could capture in both ammo and rifles and the everlasting seduction of 'volume of fire'. Handy at close quarters, but when standing off in the hills at 1500 or 2000 yards a full size cartridge is a lot more use. But maybe they're going in more for close-quarters these days?

Uh, no, they go for IEDs. The 'ban get their a$$es handed to them in a stand-up fight. Panjway was a good indication of what happens when you decide to play silly bugger with Canadians.
 
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