Fn scar
- Thread starter mildot
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- Calgary, Alberta
They told me that DoD deliveries would be 88,000 by the end of FY 2009 and 4,000 semi-autos to the commercial market.
I have some friends in FNMfg, I think your overly optimistic for 8,000 let alone 88,000...
From what I hear from USSOC personnel, SCAR is withering on the vine as it ended up like most committee designed guns, a poor compromise that does nothing well.
SOCOM is hoping that Big Army gets moving on a new gun, and they can jump onto that too...
From what I hear from USSOC personnel, SCAR is withering on the vine as it ended up like most committee designed guns, a poor compromise that does nothing well.
SOCOM is hoping that Big Army gets moving on a new gun, and they can jump onto that too...
Kac scar
I do like the KAC experimental SCAR built years before the offical SCAR rifle program the rifle it is simply amazing a much better built platform.
I do like the KAC experimental SCAR built years before the offical SCAR rifle program the rifle it is simply amazing a much better built platform.
- Location
- Scarborough, ON
Kevin, do you have any insight on what happened to the XM8 project? The DOD dumped all that money into developing a new standard infantry rifle and then just decided to stick with what they have. Rumour has it that the USMC were instrumental in lobbying to keep the M16/M4. Any truth to that?
dangertree
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- NL/ON/FL/PL
Made in the USA, and won't be available for commercial export.
I heard similar on number to Kevins, FWIW.
Be nice to own one though.
I heard similar on number to Kevins, FWIW.
Be nice to own one though.
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- Calgary, Alberta
Well, that's what the guy from FN told me. Not me saying it, it was him.
I have to say I agree on that one, I did feel all sort of H&K Mk 23-ish about it. I don't think it's as big of a white elephant as that but it's nothing to write home about.
Won't happen in the near future. Regular army doesn't care about a few more jams or whether they can dump eight mags through it on full-auto without it melting.
Dont listen to salesmen
There is a Big Army RFI, fact is the US Military small arms are facing rust/wear out -- most weapons have 2-3 tours in Iraq or Afghanistan, even dairly carry wears weapons out.
One of our SCAR gun was derived out of the Sig552 M4 lower program we did for an entity, and lessons learned from the SR-47.
I've yet to see any of the SCAR submissions to be any more useful than a well maintained M4A1
XM-8, political fiasco. Poor design
I dont think SCAR-L (Mk16) or SCAR-H (Mk17) will survie the Obama-nation
There is a Big Army RFI, fact is the US Military small arms are facing rust/wear out -- most weapons have 2-3 tours in Iraq or Afghanistan, even dairly carry wears weapons out.
One of our SCAR gun was derived out of the Sig552 M4 lower program we did for an entity, and lessons learned from the SR-47.
I've yet to see any of the SCAR submissions to be any more useful than a well maintained M4A1
XM-8, political fiasco. Poor design
I dont think SCAR-L (Mk16) or SCAR-H (Mk17) will survie the Obama-nation
Was developed for commercial market not military sales
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- Calgary, Alberta
What happened was that they wanted to sole source it, Colt (and thus the Connecticut congressional delegation) objected and said any new infantry rifle must be decided in an open competition under a formal contract request, DoD procurement agreed, the Army decided that because there was a war on they had better things to spend money on than a new rifle that isn't that much better than the M16A2, so it died. Much like the .45 pistol contract. So H&K was left with a bright shiny new factory they bought to comply with the "US source" contract provisions and no rifle or pistol (as the H&K 45 was considered the front runner) to manufacture.
Cerberus bought Bushmaster, DPMS and Remington for a reason - and Bushmaster bought the license of Masada for another reason too.
They don't need a new product, combining all three together, they churned out probably in the neighbourhood of 80k to 100K AR a year.
The Masada/ACR, as of now, is definitly aimed at the big army coming small arm solicitation, despite what magpul said in the beginning.
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- Port Perry/Toronto
That is correct. The FS2000 is availible in NZ and other parts of the world. FN Sports just does not import them.
WTF we need to put together a group of people who will put a deposit on them so they can see the money in it. I have 2k for a deposit for a PS90 right now.
- Location
- Scarborough, ON
Isn't R. Nicholls the FN importer for Canada?
What does FN sell in Canada anyway?
How can their distributor not sell a product?? Get it in writing that they will not sell you a FN item.
Then complain to FN. Get them to change the Distributor allow another Distributor to sell FN products.
If enough people complain...they might do something.
How can their distributor not sell a product?? Get it in writing that they will not sell you a FN item.
Then complain to FN. Get them to change the Distributor allow another Distributor to sell FN products.
If enough people complain...they might do something.
