Does changing grips kick you out of production ?
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for production division,...(IPSC), you can install factory grips. If hogue is a factory option or the grips are a sig accessory/option,..than that is good to go. IF the SRT trigger is offered optionally or as an upgrade for that model from the OEM,...than you are good to go.
for IDPA he would be fine as well.... as long as the grips do not weigh MORE then 2oz more then factory, and frankly the aluminium are going to weight less then the same wood.
and the fact the houge aluminium are available on certain sig models as well would help you in IPSC
my 0.02 = short trigger is a factory option so that is OK. Hogue grips are not available as an option but there are Sig aluminum grips that would certainly be OK.
Per d4 20.3 aftermarket grips of the same profile are allowed... so Hogues should be OK as long as they don't include finger grooves, etc...
Per d4 20.3 aftermarket grips of the same profile are allowed... so Hogues should be OK as long as they don't include finger grooves, etc...
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Sig makes the P226 Platinum Elite with the Aluminium grips. All you need is to order a set of genuine Sig Platinum Elite White Aluminium grips, and your gun will look like the newest Platinum Elite Sig but except that yours is all stainless. Check out the Sig Sauer web site, they are on there and they are thinner therefore require shorter screws than your wood grips. I believe the long scews that come with the wood grips should fit the aluminium ones but you may want to verify that first.
read the rules!
19. Original parts and components offered by the OFM as standard equipment, or as an option, for a specific model handgun on the IPSC approved handgun list are permitted, subject to the following:
19.1 Modifications to them, other than minor detailing (the removal of burrs and/or adjustments unavoidably required in order to fit replacement OFM parts or components, and/or identifying marks which add or remove negligible weight to/from magazines), are prohibited. Other prohibited modifications include those which facilitate faster reloading (e.g. flared, enlarged and/or add-on magwells, etc.), changing the original color and/or finish of a handgun, and/or adding stripes or other embellishments.
19.2 Base plates and/or any other devices which provide additional ammunition capacity (e.g. “+2” magazine extensions), are prohibited.
19.3 Sights may be trimmed, adjusted and/or have sight black applied.
20. Aftermarket parts, components and accessories are prohibited, except as follows:
20.1 Aftermarket magazines which match the external dimensions of standard magazines offered by the OFM for the approved handgun are permitted.
20.2 Aftermarket open sights (see Rule 5.1.3.1) are permitted, provided their installation and/or adjustment requires no alteration to the handgun.
20.3 Aftermarket grips which match the profile of the OFM standard for the approved handgun and/or the application of tape on grips (see Appendix F4) is permitted, however, rubber sleeves are prohibited.
So now based on the rules, if you could prove to me that the Hogue grips were the same profile as the Sig aluminium grips they would be legal. if not you could declare standard division and shot there. if however you declared production and you could not prove that they were the same profile as the OFM grips then you would get moved to open.
19. Original parts and components offered by the OFM as standard equipment, or as an option, for a specific model handgun on the IPSC approved handgun list are permitted, subject to the following:
19.1 Modifications to them, other than minor detailing (the removal of burrs and/or adjustments unavoidably required in order to fit replacement OFM parts or components, and/or identifying marks which add or remove negligible weight to/from magazines), are prohibited. Other prohibited modifications include those which facilitate faster reloading (e.g. flared, enlarged and/or add-on magwells, etc.), changing the original color and/or finish of a handgun, and/or adding stripes or other embellishments.
19.2 Base plates and/or any other devices which provide additional ammunition capacity (e.g. “+2” magazine extensions), are prohibited.
19.3 Sights may be trimmed, adjusted and/or have sight black applied.
20. Aftermarket parts, components and accessories are prohibited, except as follows:
20.1 Aftermarket magazines which match the external dimensions of standard magazines offered by the OFM for the approved handgun are permitted.
20.2 Aftermarket open sights (see Rule 5.1.3.1) are permitted, provided their installation and/or adjustment requires no alteration to the handgun.
20.3 Aftermarket grips which match the profile of the OFM standard for the approved handgun and/or the application of tape on grips (see Appendix F4) is permitted, however, rubber sleeves are prohibited.
So now based on the rules, if you could prove to me that the Hogue grips were the same profile as the Sig aluminium grips they would be legal. if not you could declare standard division and shot there. if however you declared production and you could not prove that they were the same profile as the OFM grips then you would get moved to open.
I take his comment as a friendly heads up that he (origional poster) is opening himself up to possible argument at a match. He/she is just leaving the door open. Again everyone always interprets any type of info differently.
as an RO no. as an RM maybe. personally if i am the RM and the question comes up is this equal to OEM equipment, i put the onus on the shooter to provide me with the proof. in this case show me the page with the OEM aluminium grips with dimensions and then show me the page with the hogue grips so i can compare them. can't show them to me then welcome to open (if pre match then welcome to standard.) it is impossible for anyone to keep a complete list of what is available for each and every gun out there so the onus falls on the shooter to "prove" that he is using either OEM equipment or equivalent, especially when it comes to production! if in doubt i take the Darklord'ss standard answer, NFW.
