- Location
- Edmonton Alberta
Can I use 777 in my T/C Encore. I ask as the barrel has "Pyrodex only" printed on it but people tell me that it is safe to use 777.
Pyrodex VS 777
- Thread starter strawberry
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My understanding (from the Hogdon manual) is that if you want to match a bp load for velocity, reduce the load by 15%.
...for example...
if you have a bp load of 100 grains by volume, an equivelant load of 777 would be 15% by volume less.
so...that 100 grains by volume of bp = 85 grains by volume of 777.
They say to never weigh 777 ot Pyrodex, only use bp volume measurers.
Check the Hogdon site. The Pyrodex/777 manual has factory developed load data as well.
Just to confuse the issue further, Pyrodex pellets are a true 50 grains by volume but T7 pellets are not despite the fact they are called 50 grain pellets. The 15% reduction is already built in. A 50 grain T7 pellet is only about 43 grains by volume....confused?????
- Location
- Hillbilly shack in the boonies
do not compress 777 , pressure spike
Can I use 777 in my T/C Encore. I ask as the barrel has "Pyrodex only" printed on it but people tell me that it is safe to use 777.
Good Luck w/ 777, one shot puts such a crud ring in my Pro Hunter that I cannot load a second time without cleaning.
- Location
- Edmonton Alberta
thanks for all the info. any tried the Jim Shocky stuff?
I use 777 loose in all my front stuffers and I NEVER have a "crud ring" issue. I have fired as many as 20 shots at the range with my Traditions inline with ZERO cleaning required and as many or even more with my Hawken 54 percussion. NO accuracy loss issues or fouling to cause hard loading. I have heard a few people mention a "crud ring" but is it possible that it happens with using pellets? It sure doesn't happen with loose powder in any of my guns.
Listen, because CROWCA is a really smart dude and knows all kinds of stuff about guns. "Professor Cukier" taught him everything he knows...
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American Pioneer Powder
Has anybody ever tried American Pioneer Powder black powder replacement? I bought some at the local gun store when it was on sale.I've never tried it and would like to get some feedback on how it works.I have been using goex fff in my .45 cal Kentucky rifle and my blackpowder hanguns.Would like to know how it performs.Any feedback would be appreciated.
Has anybody ever tried American Pioneer Powder black powder replacement? I bought some at the local gun store when it was on sale.I've never tried it and would like to get some feedback on how it works.I have been using goex fff in my .45 cal Kentucky rifle and my blackpowder hanguns.Would like to know how it performs.Any feedback would be appreciated.
If you aren't using 209 primers, you may have some ignition problems. Other than Pyrodex, most substitutes require 209 primers to consistently go bang.
I tried T7 pellets and 209 primers and had little success. More hang-fires and mis-fires than I care to enjoy...I think I used 12 primers to fire 5 shots one day, I kid you not. Gave them away and switched to T7 FFFG, with the .25acp conversion, firing small rifle primers. Consistent ignition, every time.
I'll never buy another pellet again...
I'll never buy another pellet again...
Your pellets were either damp or your breech plug was plugged. T7 pellets should go bang every time with 209 primers. I've never had a misfire and have fired hundreds of rounds using it.
