Why so scared to buy an XCR ??

Thing about US made products is that I'm not an American. As far as I'm concerned the gun could be made by norinco, SA, RobArms, Colt Canada or whoever so long as its a good buy.

Matter of fact the US regulations on export make me less inclined to buy anything from the US that could require future parts etc, if things in the US keep on their current track it may not even be legal in the future for US manufacturers to service Canadian customers with parts etc. The US gov is sealing the coffin on their firearms industry one nail at a time.

A good example of this is Kinghts Armament. I baught an old RAS for the M14 that was missing some parts and could not get replacement parts due to ITAR.
 
Dudley2112

Why exactly will your guns be hot and empty when they come and take them

Is it because u store them in a warmer room, unloaded with a trigger lock
 
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blupul said:
Dudley2112

Why exactly will your guns be hot and empty when they come and take them

Is it because u store them in a warmer room, unloaded with a trigger lock


All you a$$ holes who brag about how many guns u have and imply u will protect them at all costs give your f/$%ing head a shake. Your gun isnt worth more than someones life. Thats why we all get a bad rap. Dudley u could be the poster child for the next anti gun campaign.
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jesus christ u seem to like to start a fight eh. my friend told me that the other day and we had a laugh, im not that ####ing stupid to even suggest i woudl be willing to die for a hobby. take a big ####ing chill pill and step away from your computer
 
blupul said:
Good Response!

Why post it then


(ps) got to get my posts up somehow
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cause they be hot and empty when the libs put them in the blast furnance happy with that answer now that you got us off topic. You know theres a whole train wreck thread in th O/T section...mind you that wouldn't get your post count up now would it
 
blupul said:
around 2500 shipped to your door from wolverine
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its cool just not 2500 cool... :kickInTheNuts:

for me a gun is a gun dont care to much about looks as long as its fun to shoot or kicks like a mule.. (can be fun to watch budys shoot it..)
 
My friend owns XCR, I own PE 90. We shot them both in one day. He likes his XCR, I prefer my PE 90. XCR definitely looks nice, but I had two problems with it. The accuracy was not as good as my PE 90 and it had very strange trigger. I cannot explain why, but after shooting few mags through it my finger would go numb. I have never had this happen with PE 90 or AR 15 that I used to own. At the end my friend agreed that PE 90 is a superior rifle, but he said he just wanted to have something different from what I have, because we always shoot together. In any case, we decided that both of them are too expensive to shoot, so we are buying CZ 858.
 
It seems folks aren't afraid of the XCR, just can't find the means to justify the price. Particularly when there are alternatives at that price range. I bet anyone here would own one if they could afford it. By affording, I'm also including maintenance and accessories. It's only saving grace as of now is it's non-restricted, semiautomatic, and superficially resembles closes to an AR. Like others have stated, you can get alternatives at that range albeit more expensive or cheaper (SAN, SL8, Mini 14 Models) in the non restricted department. As for restricted, people will choose the AR simply because of price, maintenance, availability, accessories (sort of a moot point but folks love dressing them up) and superficially, the original cool.

No one is really afraid of it because it's change, but they're being cautious consumers. Given time, when the product matures and becomes more recognized and widespread, it will become quite popular and more accessible. Particularly the calibre changes. Who wouldn't want a semi automatic deer rifle than can be switched to varmint control. The product has got growth potential but since Rob Arms is small company, it's only gonna progress proportionally to it's size. It's not gonna turn into Remington over night.

In conclusion, people who own this firearm seem to like it a lot and that a good thing. But the rest of us with a budget to work with will have to be a little more patient in making expenses in these hard times.
 
I have considered them many times.

Here is what has held me back, personally:

1) a few hundred dollars more and you are in SIG/SAN country

2) ditto on the Tavor.

3) they are really nose-heavy with the full length rail and heavy barrel. If I got one I would probably look at fluting the barrel just to take some weight off the nose.

4) deep down I am concerned by some of the things I've seen written about small spring clips etc. My go-to guns are M14s which I have 100% faith in. To switch to a gun that weighs about the same, shoots a lighter caliber, and which sounds a little buggy makes me nervous. Definitely my M14s which I tune myself and know inside out cost me about $700 to get where I want them, including the rifle. So it's 3-4 M14s per XCR...the XCR would have to be pretty bang-on to get me on board.

Now I would spend the money...that is not a huge issue for me generally speaking. Well, maybe now...I have to let the cards cool off for a while. But I wouldn't cut and run at that price point. It just seems that for a little more money, I could have a Classic Green or a Tavor and have either a serious, beautiful Swiss watch that kills stuff or a super-short lightweight rifle that comes with a red dot and is built by people completely surrounded by other people that want to kill them...you know that's going to be a reliable gun!

Nothing against the XCR but at that price point it is some stiff competition. If I could get the x39 barrel and bolt it would be different. I know that is not the fault of Robarms but my interest is not whose fault it is, my interest is guns that perform for me the way I want them too.

A good friend of mine liked his XCR a lot. Then he got a Tavor. The XCR was gone after a couple of days. Sorry, Robarms. I think it's a good gun. But there are a lot of good guns these days. Ten years ago it would have been different but Canadian gun owners have better choices than the XCR (or the 180b for that matter).

I do think the price is not unrealistic when you look at what it comes with, though. But I am not really a big "full length rail" guy anyway. If that is something you consider a mandatory AR upgrade then you will have to pay good money to add that on. Between a Stag, a full length rail and flippy sights you are probably already approaching XCR money anyway.
 
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I do think the price is not unrealistic when you look at what it comes with, though. But I am not really a big "full length rail" guy anyway. If that is something you consider a mandatory AR upgrade then you will have to pay good money to add that on. Between a Stag, a full length rail and flippy sights you are probably already approaching XCR money anyway.
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$1795 for a stag that has the rails and flip sights, but it does lack an adjustable gas block (Add another $150) and a heavy barrel ($200 to $400 depending on the barrel).

Still a bit cheaper to go with an AR but the difference is non restricted vs restricted and Robarms with Wolverine have been really good about customer support so far.
 
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