Dlask (RRA 10 round couplers)

40 dollars is not a reasonable price for a peice of triangular metal.



wait 6 months and Norinco may come out with a $5 one.

I think $40 is reasonable for this part. If I was to machine that right now I will be done in about 2 hours.

Looking at the break down:

2 hours x $25/ hour
1 alum or metal piece $5.00 metal warehouse
1 anodized or blacken finish $65/lot

$40 is a good price. I do hope that after a few production runs they will be in the $20 range but for an intro price. I think its good.

$40 well spent instead of trying to fish 10 round mags out of my harness.
 
The individual who designed this particular item is a member of CGN. I think it is a great idea and the execution has been very well done. It takes a fair bit of investment to bring a new product to market. The first batch were made entirely on spec and they sold out within a couple of hours.

Higher production numbers and greater volume will permit any manufacturer to reduce per unit costs. I'm sure that this will eventually be the same with this product. Instead of running it down and complaining because of the cost, we should be supporting such initiative by Canadian manufacturers. If we don't support them, where is the drive to try new things or to innovate?

The United States looks like it is going to contiue to grow increasingly insular and protectionist. The flow of "tactical" and even common firearms related parts and accessories are slowly being choked off. What will be our options then?

Europe? Sure, if we'd like to pay 3-4 times current prices! Look at their current, everyday pricing on AR-15s!

How about China? I'm sure the Chinese will happily make a cheaper knock-off of lesser materials that won't last as long by half for a fraction of the price! If that floats your boat, fine and dandy, but I generally find that you have to pay for quality.

However, ask yourself how secure is that source going to be in the near future if oil prices skyrocket once again and it is no longer economically feasible to ship container loads of Chines plastic dog poop and AR-15 magazine couplers across the Pacific to Canada???
 
I read somewhere that a 4 way is in the works, I guess they wanted to see how the demand was for the current one. The guy who designed the item for Dlask has a post on here somewhere where he talks about the 4 way one being next.

Ah, excellent.
 
The United States looks like it is going to contiue to grow increasingly insular and protectionist. The flow of "tactical" and even common firearms related parts and accessories are slowly being choked off. What will be our options then?

As a consumer, you won't have many options. You will be forced to pay high prices. That is why getting into manufacturing firearms parts is drawing in the realtors. LOL. Oh man, I am beside myself that was so good.

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Aside from all the "whahhh.. whahh" its too expensive crap on the board here are a few pix that may give some a decent idea as to the usefull-ness of this particular adapter. I have 8-10 of these stubby 10 round , mags but never was able to really get any use out of them at sporting rifle matches and "tac-rifle" matches here at home. This may allow me to use standard rifle pouches for the purpose ..


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I read somewhere that a 4 way is in the works, I guess they wanted to see how the demand was for the current one. The guy who designed the item for Dlask has a post on here somewhere where he talks about the 4 way one being next.

He could make a "brick" of like 8

it would replace the need or desire for a "Drum"

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Shazam:

Frist of, please allow me to express my appreciation of a reveiw of the actual product. Cost at this point is a different condideration, and if it works like I think it will, may well be worth the cost. I plan to run a Redi-Mag on my CQB/Course Style carbine, and the thought of haveing 36 rounds on the gun before needing to go to the vest for a mag swap is very appealing. Reddi Mag looks like this (Thx for the pic Hoddie) Replace Pmags with coupled Lar mags
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Side note: Before anyone asks, I have yet to find a Lar mag to reliably feed 10 round, and I just load 9. If you can get 10 to work every time, more power to you. so 4*9= 36
At this point Im not sure if you have had an opportunity to shoot drills with these coupled mags, but when you do

  • In general how is it working?? Is it really faster than grabing mags from a pouch or vest??
  • What are the mechanics of "spinning" a mag for insertion after using up the top half
  • are you using a protective cap?? Do you think such would be helpful??
  • when you dump a joined mag how are you preventing feed lip damage. Would the use of a dump pouch be helpful to this end
  • If you accidently dump a mag with the bottom half full, do you loose rounds from the bottom half??

This is a serious inquiry and would really any comments you may have to offer

Thanks in advance.

regards

AbH

regards

AbH
 
AbH,

I have a Redi-mag MkI on the M4'gery and it would seem problematic to drop the mag for a quick swap. meaning that as soon as you drop the empty it also releases the new mag for quick interchange. I understand that the newer Redi-mag have the option to release the spare mag separately and this would probably be preferable. That way you could drop the mag, and articulate the swap without having the spare drop to the deck.

As far as using these mags the 10 round mags are far more functional in my opinion. I was the guy fishing them out ofa dump pouch at tactical rifle matches last year and now the same mags fit into standard 30 round cases.

Ill post some pictures tonight.
 
Shazam:

THx for taking the time to get back to me.

Im sorry I should have been more clear!! I have the Redi-Mag Gen 2. You are correct, the Guns mag relase, and the Redi-Mag release are actuated seperatly. Allowing for greater control.

It is my understanding that the BFG are similar in operation as well.

Look forward to your pictures.

regards

AbH
 
The other thing you need to remember is that there is a very limited market for these things, basically only us here in Canada (you think some guy in the US is going to clip two 30 rounders together end to end???). Would we actually buy enough of them to make it worth while for someone to produce them in the quantities necessary to get them down to the $10-15 suggested price? Not that likely. It would be interesting to know how many of the 10 rnd mags were even sold in Canada. Aren't we used to costly accessories yet? Pretty much everything firearms related here in Canada is expensive due to us being a small market.

I'm guessing that if the guys here complaining about the price were 100% truthful, they, like me, realize that these are pretty much useless to them 'cause we can't even afford to buy the ammo to shoot our guns single shot let alone dumping 20 rounds downrange as fast as possible! lol

Actually there are states in the US that restrict magazine capacity on semi auto pistols and rifles, so Dlask might find some markets there if they care to try.
As for the issue of cost; the only whining I noted was the whining about other people expressing an unwelcome opinion. $40 or $50 does seem a little steep. The reasons for it have been adequately explained and those of us who want one bad enough to pay that much for them will buy, the others will wait for the price to go down, or pick them up on the EE.:jerkit:
 
Mr. Robertf:

If I may ask, how did you prevent the mag lips from deforming on "dumping" an empty mag?? or was this not an issue??

regards

AbH
 
If your not using a REDI-MAG I can see how it would be fine to articulate the mag with the left hand AND not drop the mag on deck. I' ll have to make it a new drill ... ;)
 
Shazam:

Side note: Before anyone asks, I have yet to find a Lar mag to reliably feed 10 round, and I just load 9. If you can get 10 to work every time, more power to you. so 4*9= 36

Actually, the 10 rounders I've gotten from Questar have been fantastic, no trouble with the 10th round so far.

As for the mechanics of changing out the mag, I picture spinning the rifle magazine towards the support hand and holding it high enough to comfortably and quickly grab the magazine in the middle with a supinated grip (palm up) then spinning it and inserting it palm down. Should be about the same speed as quickly grabbing a mag from your vest, I would think.
 
Mr. Robertf:

If I may ask, how did you prevent the mag lips from deforming on "dumping" an empty mag?? or was this not an issue??

regards

AbH

It was an ODPL shoot where you would loose points for dumping mags that had any ammo in them. Mags with a round or two left in them, instead of drop and go, got put pack in the mag pouch. Some guys carry a bigger dump pouch. Strategically it made sense to change mags before they are empty to save time between stations in a stage. In reality you are correct, mag lips could get bent. Also you could jam the mud in the bottom mag if you rested weight on it. But for ODPL, they work great.
 
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