Stanag optic mounts

[koldt]

Some pics of some of the various stanag mounts. The NV scope on top is the older Canadian PVS502 starlight. Equivelent to the US PVS4 scope.
These are a great NV scope with a variety of reticules available. I personally like the Israeli cross with dot. A lot of accessories for the US PVS4 will fit onto this scope, including the day filter, rubber eye piece, reticule adjustment covers, reticules, and other smaller electronic bit.. The PVS4 is about the same weight, but the length is about 2 inches shorter, basically it only extends to where the 502 rubber eye piece fits onto the scope.
Last bunch I bought were about the $350US cost.
Top to bottom are the various mounts that this scope could fit on with stanag mount.
On the scope is the ARMS stanag to picatini mount. Suitable for any picitini or weaver type rail.
Next is the CF Canadian mount for the FNC1 rifle. It allows use of the iron sights as well.
Next is the Israeli mount that goes directly onto the stanag rail on the bottom of the scope. All of the next mounts also fit directly onto that same rail.
Next mount is for all HK rifles and of course the MP5.
Next is a fairly rare Galil QD mount.
The last one is the screw on/then QD M14 mount.

There are a variety of different optics that can also be screwed onto these mounts, but this NV is the last stanag type system I have.

It's a little old, but this is what was more universally accepted before Picatini/weaver became in vogue. Thought some folks may be interested in another of the older milsurp systems.

 

[fat tony]

I seem to remember using these in TQ3, you'd turn it on and it would start this high pitched whine that would rise in pitch until you could barely hear it, and we were so tired we'd see all manner of hallucinations through the eyepiece - good times lol!

 

[purple]

I wonder if any of these could be adapted to fit the Danish Garand NV models.I understand that the original NV scope used by the Danes was Geman made. I have one of the Danish Garand receivers complete with the welded on brackets and the rail for their NV sight which looks somewhat like the first one you show below the NV sight.

I don't have a compelling need for a NV equipped M1 (don't do any night hunting or trips to the range after dark),but it might be interesting to play with all the same.

 

[koldt]

I wonder if any of these could be adapted to fit the Danish Garand NV models.I understand that the original NV scope used by the Danes was Geman made. I have one of the Danish Garand receivers complete with the welded on brackets and the rail for their NV sight which looks somewhat like the first one you show below the NV sight.

I don't have a compelling need for a NV equipped M1 (don't do any night hunting or trips to the range after dark),but it might be interesting to play with all the same.

Hey, if you've got a pic, I'd like to see it.

All this crap is mostly just for fun. We do get out the odd time for a night/campout shoot 'n BBQ. But,, he who rules the night, rules the world.....

 

[koldt]

I seem to remember using these in TQ3, you'd turn it on and it would start this high pitched whine that would rise in pitch until you could barely hear it, and we were so tired we'd see all manner of hallucinations through the eyepiece - good times lol!

Oh ya, they still have that "whistle" and the view does have that "fish eye" look to it, but so does most/all of the early NV, including the US PVS4. Man, this stuff is late '60s early 70s technology. I am amazed though, at the performance of these particular scopes for their age.

Night vision, puts a whole 'nother reason to go to the range. And of course another avenue for the milsurp bug to take hold and offer me the "opportunity" to spend money that I don't have on toys I don't need.

 

[purple]

I'm not set up for pics,but I checked the mounting rail with calipers and found the following dimensions:
length of rail- 5.375"
interior width of rail at front-.668"
interior width of rail at rear-.648"
hole in bottom center of rail(presumably for a locking screw)-.470"

The interior of the rail is tapered from top to bottom for it's full length(wider at the bottom).
I assume that a bracket which is fixed to the sight unit slides into the rail from front to rear and is then secured in place with a screw from the bottom.

I don't know if any of these dimensions are similar to any of the mounts that you have. At various times I've contemplated cutting/milling/grinding the 2 welded brackets off of the receiver,re-parking,and then building a standard configuration rifle on the receiver.I might leave it as is if there is any possibility of locating a bracket and NV sight which will fit this rail. Might be an interesting conversation piece anyway-or just the ticket for some of those old New Brunswick deer hunters whose bucks always seemed to have a bullet hole in the front hooves from shielding their eyes against the spotlights.

 

[koldt]

I'm not set up for pics,but I checked the mounting rail with calipers and found the following dimensions:
length of rail- 5.375"
interior width of rail at front-.668"
interior width of rail at rear-.648"
hole in bottom center of rail(presumably for a locking screw)-.470"

The interior of the rail is tapered from top to bottom for it's full length(wider at the bottom).
I assume that a bracket which is fixed to the sight unit slides into the rail from front to rear and is then secured in place with a screw from the bottom.

I don't know if any of these dimensions are similar to any of the mounts that you have. At various times I've contemplated cutting/milling/grinding the 2 welded brackets off of the receiver,re-parking,and then building a standard configuration rifle on the receiver.I might leave it as is if there is any possibility of locating a bracket and NV sight which will fit this rail. Might be an interesting conversation piece anyway-or just the ticket for some of those old New Brunswick deer hunters whose bucks always seemed to have a bullet hole in the front hooves from shielding their eyes against the spotlights.

Personally, I think, (dangerous) that it would be better off, for the milsurp world, to leave the one you have as original. Either keep it, or sell and find one that doesn't have the mount on the receiver. I don't know if there are too many of those around. I would still love to get a picture somehow. I've never seen a Garand with some sort of factory optic mount.

 

[purple]

AFAIK these were not factory original installations,but were fabricated by the Danes by welding 2 brackets onto their standard Italian made Beretta and Breda Garands in front of the clip latch cutout and below the rear sight. Mine is a very low numbered Beretta.

I'm cautious about any welding done to a receiver,but the welds were done to the rear of the receiver ring and the bolt lug seats. The rifle was obviously fired considerably without a problem as evidenced by finish wear on the receiver.

Some yrs ago a fellow from Germany had posted some good pics of the complete and original lash-up on the old Culver Garand forum.I wish I had printed off some pics at the time. I'm in no rush to do anything with this receiver as I have another half dozen standard ones on hand for future builds.