cycling smooth without round but difficult to cycle when round chambered?

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So I was having some trouble at the range with my Norc m14 cycling some surp ammo. Had some great suggestions from members and its now much improved but I now notice that it is cycling very poorly when there's a chambered round. Not smooth at all to extract round manually and I suspect whatever is happening is responsible for all my woes.:confused:

As I type this I realize I probly should have searched for similar threads but oh well.
 
Describe in detail what you are doing and what you don't like? Don't understand where you are coming from.

fishfalcon said:
So I was having some trouble at the range with my Norc m14 cycling some surp ammo. Had some great suggestions from members and its now much improved but I now notice that it is cycling very poorly when there's a chambered round. Not smooth at all to extract round manually and I suspect whatever is happening is responsible for all my woes.:confused:

As I type this I realize I probly should have searched for similar threads but oh well.
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Hmmmmm, very smart gnmontey....by asking me more about the details you have helped me to understand more about what is going on. It is only after I have pulled the trigger and the hammer is forward. So its the resetting of the hammer that is feeling so rough. hmmmm. maybe this isn't a problem after all;)
 
fishfalcon said:
Hmmmmm, very smart gnmontey....by asking me more about the details you have helped me to understand more about what is going on. It is only after I have pulled the trigger and the hammer is forward. So its the resetting of the hammer that is feeling so rough. hmmmm. maybe this isn't a problem after all;)
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Hey... I have the same issue or perceived issue. I blew my chance to have it critiqued at the last clinic. I wanted Hungry to comment on the situation and totally forgot that the roughness only occurs with the hammer down

Why are you manually operating the action after taking a shot? Is the spent round not ejecting?
 
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Wait... how did you get a round in the chamber without cycling the bolt and thus dropping the hammer? are you really holding the bolt half open, slipping a round in the chamber, and then letting the bolt back closed?

Note that with a magazine loaded the bolt is a little rougher, as it scrapes against the first round/follower a bit.
 
gnmontey,
I have been having some trouble with spent rounds not ejecting and did have to manually cycle the action following this. Also I have "snap caps"(practice rounds) and have reproduced this situation that way. It seems to be reasonable now that I have cleaned and polished a few parts.

Since then, I discovered some of the ammunition that I acquired was somehow soaked in oil and the powder is not responding appropriately. (discovered as one of the rounds only fired the primer and partially unseated the bullet---which I fully removed and inspected to find oil soaked powder that did not ignite)

I suspect now that the ammunition has more to do with my dilemma than the gun. However like yours, mine is a bit difficult to reset the hammer.
I'm hoping to go to a clinic locally with 45ACPKING and maybe I can check with him about what is a reasonable amount of friction in this situation.
 
Dasq,
no no no. not doing anything crazy! as I responded before I read your post, I'm just trying to sort out a cycling problem that begun a few weeks ago. As I tried new solutions (cleaning, polishing etc) I discovered this situation with the cycle after the hammer was forward and didn't really put much thought into the mechanism. :runaway:
 
fishfalcon said:
gnmontey,
Since then, I discovered some of the ammunition that I acquired was somehow soaked in oil and the powder is not responding appropriately. (discovered as one of the rounds only fired the primer and partially unseated the bullet---which I fully removed and inspected to find oil soaked powder that did not ignite)
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Suspect oil contaminated ammo!!!!

Pull the bullets, flush the powder down the toilet, fire the empty primed casings in your rifle, and turf all the spent casings out.

Don't fool with stuff like that. You will only regret it in the end.
 
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