.357 SIG firearms?
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I love the 357 SIG round, was the only reason I kept my Glock 22 as long as I did (I had a conversion barrel for 357SIG for it). Never liked the 40SW in the Glock, just felt wrong. The recoil characteristics of the 357SIG were much more pleasant.
Glock is the way!
If your seriously interested in the 357SIG, then look at the Glock model 20 (10mm). You can use full power 10mm cartridges (which are a blast), and simply drop in conversion barrels for 40 S/W, 357 SIG and 9X25 Dillon. All in all you can play with up to 4 different, but similar, cartridges in one platform.
Like everyone says though, if you want to shoot anything but .40, look at reloading to save on costs.
If you really want to see some wicked velocity's then check out the 9X25 Dillon. 2100fps for a 90grain bullet out of a 6 inch barrel. AWESOME!!!!!!
My $0.02.........................
If your seriously interested in the 357SIG, then look at the Glock model 20 (10mm). You can use full power 10mm cartridges (which are a blast), and simply drop in conversion barrels for 40 S/W, 357 SIG and 9X25 Dillon. All in all you can play with up to 4 different, but similar, cartridges in one platform.
Like everyone says though, if you want to shoot anything but .40, look at reloading to save on costs.
If you really want to see some wicked velocity's then check out the 9X25 Dillon. 2100fps for a 90grain bullet out of a 6 inch barrel. AWESOME!!!!!!
My $0.02.........................
357 barrel w/ Glock logo so I guess it's factory (and the serial number matches to my gun)
But I don't know if the chamber is different because it's newer ('08) or if they're all like that... I hear a lot of people mention the "unsupported chamber" thing. It could be a myth, maybe I got lucky or maybe just doesn't affect the 31's.
On my 40 barrel I have different markings, anyone know what they mean? I'm pretty sure the seller told me that it was a factory barrel but it doesn't say Glock.
Same deal though...there's no gap between the feed ramp and the "extractor notch/ring" of the brass. No Glock logo so maybe it is aftermarket?
I got a heads up on a case here in Ontario, but I thought $28/box was a lot! Maybe I should jump on that deal after allI appreciate your help though Targettarget, maybe I'll have to get in touch with them if my local hookup falls through.
Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread
IIRC, some of the older Gen3 and even older Gen 2 Glocks didn't always have "Glock" engraved on the barrel, so I would assume that both of yours a factory Glock barrels. I believe that it also matters on where the frame was made. If it was made in the US, then it might have different markings on it then a frame from Austria.
To be honest, I've never seen a Glock 31 (or 32, 33) barrel and I don't know first hand how "supported" they are. I know that my aftermarket EFK Firedragon barrel I had for my .357 Sig was about as close to "fully supported" as you could get.
If your buying .357 Sig at will for $28/box, that's a pretty good deal. I've never seen it sell for that low. I think I may have bought a box once for $31 or $32, but that was it.
Either way, good score.
The people you've been talking to have a point, but they're not entirely right. RN bullets are indeed trickier to load because you don't have much straight surface to work with before the ogive starts. In other words, it's hard to get an acceptable OAL (short enough to fit in the mag) without having to crimp on the base of the nose, but it's definitely doable. The only bullets I really couldn't get acceptable results from (too long to seat so that the cartridge would fit in the magazine) were Hornady's 147gr. RN-BT, but I believe those have been discontinued...Very cool, I knew they take .355-.356 (9mm) bullets but which ones have you been using? People are saying to stay away from the 9mm RN bullets because theres not much for the neck to grip onto and I can understand that, obviously a FP would be prefered. But most of the bullets I see at stores around here are RN and I'm not sure if they'd work. Most of the reloading recipes I've found suggest 124 Speer or Hornady, both of which are pretty expensive from what I've found.
I know I could order Montana Gold's from the US but I'd prefer to find something thats cheap, plentiful, widely available and will work with the higher velocities of the 357sig. (Some manufacturers say their bullets are only good to 1200fps)
The Frontier ones from Marstar look like they might fit the bill but I'm not sure?
If you could find time to throw together a list of a couple bullets (preferably CMJ or FMJ) that are available in Canada that have worked in your experiences, I'd very much appreciate it
Anyway, to answer your question, I've used four different bullet weights, 90, 115, 124 and 147, mostly Hornady FMJ-RN, FP or XTP, and have also had excellent results with Frontier and, better still, Berry's CMJ-RN bullets in 124 and 147 grains.
Do you happen to recall which bullet manufacturers recommend staying under 1200fps? I've loaded many different types of bullets in the short time I've been handloading and don't ever recall reading such a warning.
One last observation with regards to bullet availability in Canada, I would highly recommend any handloader get in touch with Mike at ###.reloadinginternational.com, based in Oregon. He makes it exceedingly easy for Canadians to fill out the requisite paperwork to obtain an import certificate. Processing time is roughly two weeks, and then it's smooth sailing to get a wide variety of bullets that are hard to find in Canada. I get all my Berry's, Nosler and Winchester silvertips straight from him, highly recommended.
Great! Exactly the information I've been looking for. I was particularly interested in the Frontier since they seem to be available from Marstar by the 1,000. I'll probably try the Frontier 124gr. FP first and the 147's next.
I feel A LOT better now that I know I don't have to be super paranoid about which bullet I use.
A 90gr. bullet must just scream...ever chrono one?
Barry's is the first one that comes to mind. h ttp://www.berrysmfg.com/faq.aspx?q=10&c=1
Obviously it's not a big issue though because I've seen other recipes (from Accurate, I think) which use their products and have been chrono'd beyond 1200fps.
I'm convinced reloading is the way to go if I'm going to shoot this caliber. It really doesn't take too long to pay off my equipment and supplies when you consider that ~$30/box is a good deal for factory ammo. Good thing 9mm bullets are cheap
Still, if you're gonna load RNs, especially 147gr., I would recommend you seat your bullet as high as possible; in my P226, I found that 1.167" was pretty much the max length before they started binding in the mag.I feel A LOT better now that I know I don't have to be super paranoid about which bullet I use.
Unfortunately not, I haven't bought any 90s since I got my Chrony.
