Canadian Army requests rule exemption for members shooting IDPA

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In response to a specific request from the staff of General M Jorgansen, Commander LFWA, Canadian Army we are today pleased to announce the following rules exception for members of the Regular Armed Forces, Reserve , R.C.M.P. Emergency Response Teams and Municipal Police Forces S.W.A.T. members.

The above personnel are permitted to shoot for score and participate in all IDPA Club and Sanctioned Matches wearing and utilizing thigh rig holsters under the following conditions:

1. They must be a current serving member of the Canadian Armed Forces, R.C.M.P or Municipal Police force as evidenced by personnel I.D.
2. They must be current I.D.P.A. members.
3. Canadian Armed Forces participants must utilize the following equipment:

a. helmet;
b. ballistic eye wear/hearing protection;
c. CADPAT (combat uniform);
d. tactical vest (fragmentation vest not required for competition) complete (necessary for holster storage); and
e. thigh holster (must be secured with a strap, flap, or similar retention device. While shoulder holsters have been issued, they are incompatible with frag vest/tac vest. They cannot be used in competition for obvious reasons.
4. R.C.M.P. E.R.T. and Municipal Police S.W.A.T. team members must wear there full response gear including helmet if issued.
5. Those members of the three groups above may shoot for score and qualify for awards in all I.D.P.A. Club events and Sanctioned Matches.
I.D.P.A. Canada is pleased that our Armed Forces see value in our sport for their combat troops and we are equally pleased to be able to provide tangible support for our troops.

NOTE: Under no circumstances are civilians to be accorded the privilege of using thigh holsters at I.D.P.A. Club events, Club Matches or Sanctioned Matches. Thigh holsters may only be used by the groups identified above under the stipulated conditions. Should members of the identified groups elect to shoot outside of this exception they then must abide by the rules outlined in the Rule Book for civilian shooters. Regular members of the R.C.M.P. and Municipal Police Forces who are not E.R.T. or S.W.A.T. members may continue to compete wearing their duty belt gear as before, provided they carry all their duty gear on the belt as issued. They are not subject to cover garment requirements. They may not opt for wearing a thigh rig.

Bob Bonenfant
IDPA Area Coordinator - Canada
 
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as per my PM, how does this ruling affect those members of the canadian rangers ?? they are not issued all of the same gear as regular forces or reserve forces.
 
Wes ,
Although the Canadian Rangers form part of LFWA and are a reserve unit they do not fall under the exemption due to the major differences in issued kit......(unless someone is making a thigh holster for my Lee Enfield.....lol:D)
 
as per my PM, how does this ruling affect those members of the canadian rangers ?? they are not issued all of the same gear as regular forces or reserve forces.


The Rangers are not issued nor authorized to wear most of the equipment discussed above. While they can shoot pistol at CFSAC, they would compete in a different category and will not wear the extra equipment.


Words Twice
 
The Rangers are not issued nor authorized to wear most of the equipment discussed above. While they can shoot pistol at CFSAC, they would compete in a different category and will not wear the extra equipment.


Words Twice

Jay you have my intrest up now.........can you tell me more about Rangers competing at CFSAC.......by PM if you like

Dave Bjorkman
 
For those who think this is easy here is a picture of a Captain running one of the courses of fire at CFSAC. Those are 9MM ammo cans filled with sand. Temperature as I recall was +30 C. He was low scorer on this stage. Distance was 100 yards IIRC and had to be run three times back and forth to complete stage. I got to SO from a chair.:D

IDPA2007007.jpg


Take Care & Stay Safe My Friend

Bob
 
Just in case the Navy guys are feeling left out

Please note this exemption by extension applies to members of the Canadian Navy. Equipment requirements would be that of Naval Boarding parties ex armour plate. If there are any questions in this regard please contact me at this address:
bob.bonenfant@idpa.com

Bob Bonenfant
AC - Canada


also from idpacanada.com
Dave
 
For those who think this is easy here is a picture of a Captain running one of the courses of fire at CFSAC. Those are 9MM ammo cans filled with sand. Temperature as I recall was +30 C. He was low scorer on this stage. Distance was 100 yards IIRC and had to be run three times back and forth to complete stage. I got to SO from a chair.:D

IDPA2007007.jpg


Take Care & Stay Safe My Friend

Bob

nice track and field day
 
The inclusion of Services within a sport is massively positive. Building bridges between 'us and them' can only work to support and strengthen the continued right of civilian firearms ownership.

Reflect on the DCRA debates with the government when they were discussing the posibility of prohibiting the AR-15. There is little doubt that without the DCRA and the NSCC program the ARs would be prohib. today.
 
I do not like the distinction of "us / them" that this iplies in IPSC.

So I guess I am fair in not liking it in IDPA either.

There is no "us/them". Members of the Services mentioned in the exemption are free to participate under "Civilian" IDPA rules should they choose. As a service to our men and women serving, we responded to a need they had. If at the end of the day their participation in our matchs, club practices etc assists them in theatre or on our streets then all the better. We welcome their participation at our events and encourage them to come out. We all are just folks shooting a sport we enjoy.

Take Care

Bob
 
Us and them? This is the IDPA right? International DEFENSIVE Pistol association? We Army types only use pistols as a last resort for DEFENCE of ourselves.So why not let us use our issued gear to compete? As far as I am concerned it is proffesional development for our troops to take on this competition on their own time and mostly at their own cost. No real us and them issue as far as I can see.

Next us and them will be guys who run leather holsters vs Kydex guys.
 
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