handgun from a gun store
- Thread starter jonkz
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So, let me get this straight, since I am new to this, and will be getting a hand gun sooner rather than later.
I drive 100-200K out of Toronto to find a decent gun store. I try a bunch out, and make a decision and a purchase. The store registers the gun in my name. I go home empty handed because I need an ATT to drive it home from the store.
5-10 days later, I drive out another 100-200K to pick up the gun which I can then only take home. I then apply for a second ATT to get it back and forth to a shooting range. I wait 3 weeks or more, then I get this ATT, and finally I can take the gun up and try it out?
Just checking to see if I've understood the process. There is no way to get the gun home in a single trip?
What if I decide in advance which handgun I want, buy it by phone, and wait until the store does the paperwork and I have an ATT for me to bring it home, and then I can drive up there and bring the handgun home.
I drive 100-200K out of Toronto to find a decent gun store. I try a bunch out, and make a decision and a purchase. The store registers the gun in my name. I go home empty handed because I need an ATT to drive it home from the store.
5-10 days later, I drive out another 100-200K to pick up the gun which I can then only take home. I then apply for a second ATT to get it back and forth to a shooting range. I wait 3 weeks or more, then I get this ATT, and finally I can take the gun up and try it out?
Just checking to see if I've understood the process. There is no way to get the gun home in a single trip?
What if I decide in advance which handgun I want, buy it by phone, and wait until the store does the paperwork and I have an ATT for me to bring it home, and then I can drive up there and bring the handgun home.
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- Kumankissmyass, BC
Erm... before you can even pay for the restricted and get this process started you will need to join a club and work with the folks in the club to apply for your ATT. Without an ATT already in your name a request for transfer will not be approved.
But once you've got your LT-ATT if you bought a gun at a shop that far away I would definetly have them mail it to you once the approval to transfer is obtained. Even if they charged you for shipping it would still be a whole lot cheaper than the gas to go get it in person.
One of the things they will ask when buying the gun and starting the transfer is waht club you are a member of. I am not sure how in depth they go to verify any of it, but I would not throw out a club name and hope for the best. The only reasons the government sees for owning a restricted firearm is for target practice (hence the range emebrship), or a collector; I have been told the collector thing is a royal mess.
Yes, you need a club to apply for the ATT on your behalf. But before a club will do that you would usually have to do a safety course at the club, and because they only have those courses once in a while you may have to wait a couple of months to do the course.
Look at it this way, between the time I bought my first restricted, a Glock 17, from Ellwood Epps and the time I got to fire it several months had passed.
For guns I buy now it only takes a few days to order it on the phone, to get it in the mail and for me to go to the range and fire it. Week to ten days max.
There's no such thing as going to a store and walking away with a handgun.
Actually, there hasn't been for a very long time - look at it this way, at least you don't have to drive to a police station with your receipt and registration, then to the store with the permit from the police your receipt and registration, then back to the police station with the gun, the receipt, the registration and the permit, and then finally home. That's the way it used to work..
Not true. I live in Calgary. A few years ago I was in Edmonton and stopped in at P&D. I saw a handgun I liked (SiG P226R), whipped out the VISA card and paid for it. Dianne phoned the CFC, got the transfer done and had a STATT FAXed to the store. It all took less than an hour and I drove home with the gun that afternoon.
Not true. I live in Calgary. A few years ago I was in Edmonton and stopped in at P&D. I saw a handgun I liked (SiG P226R), whipped out the VISA card and paid for it. Dianne phoned the CFC, got the transfer done and had a STATT FAXed to the store. It all took less than an hour and I drove home with the gun that afternoon.
That is the way it should work, and clearly it is possible, the obvious question is why doesn't it?
Of course that's not ontario.. I have been in epps to pick up 2 others guns and had something tickle my fancy and bought it and had the FO give me the ATT and approve the transfer in an 90 minutes.. but that's not normal.. and probably only becuase I'd dealt with the same lady 5 or six times in the prior weeks..Not true. I live in Calgary. A few years ago I was in Edmonton and stopped in at P&D. I saw a handgun I liked (SiG P226R), whipped out the VISA card and paid for it. Dianne phoned the CFC, got the transfer done and had a STATT FAXed to the store. It all took less than an hour and I drove home with the gun that afternoon.
i dunno about the other provinces, but recently in quebec when Bill-9 "the Anastacia's Law" came in to effect last year after the dreadful dawson college shooting (in montreal), it has become abit more difficult acquiring/purchasing a new pistol. for starters, they make u take an aptitude test in theory and practical form, then you get this brown colored card proving that you passed the test.
then when you go purchase a pistol [what normally takes about a week or less to have it transfered/registered in your name and to receive the temporary ATT (for recuperation from store to home)], took me a whole 28 days. the reason why it was extra difficult for me was because the person working at CFO were to now call all or most of the 2-4 references in the original PAL application form. the problem was, some of my references were old and unreachable, which further delayed the process.
so i dunno about the other provinces, but gunowners in quebec should update their references to prevent further delays.
then when you go purchase a pistol [what normally takes about a week or less to have it transfered/registered in your name and to receive the temporary ATT (for recuperation from store to home)], took me a whole 28 days. the reason why it was extra difficult for me was because the person working at CFO were to now call all or most of the 2-4 references in the original PAL application form. the problem was, some of my references were old and unreachable, which further delayed the process.
so i dunno about the other provinces, but gunowners in quebec should update their references to prevent further delays.
Yep, I remember those days well!!! What a pain in the butt.
In Ontario, it is actually easier now than several years back. I would suggest if you have to travel that far, to have it mailed to you. A couple years ago I bought a pistol from Police Ordnance in Markham....it was a couple hour drive through T.O. area for me, which I dread.
When I picked the toy I wanted, we made the call and confirmed the exchange. I was offered shipping for $20. Needless to say, it would cost me more than that for gas, and a good part of a day travelling around. He shipped it Tuesday, and my wife picked it up from the Post Office Thursday morning. Pure magic for an Ontarian!!!
On the dining room table waiting for me when I got home from work. Years ago, it would have been several weeks, and several trips before I got to touch it again.
They WILL or MAY call my references?
They WILL or MAY call my references?
it used to be a "may," but now they WILL call your references.
same thing happened to my friend when he picked up a new derringer handcannon.
i can only imagine the conversation between the person at the CFO and the reference:
CFO: "Uh hi sir/madam, this person who listed you as a reference just picked up a Bond Arms SNAKE SLAYER .410 Derringer."
Reference: "Say what?"
CFO: "a Snake Slayer."
Reference: "What the hell is that?"
hhahahaha
