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My father and I were watching and discussing the DEC 89 montreal shooting by Marc Lepane, The Question came up if the Mini 14 is now a Restricted or non Restricted rifle. I think that it is non Restricted, but my father thinks it is , can anyone help me out.:redface:
 
It is still non restricted.

An interesting fact is that the goof tried to make his Mini 14 into a full auto firearm but screwed it up. He ended up with nothing more than a single shot firearm where he had to draw the bolt back after each shot.
 
You call yourself rifleman

My father and I were watching and discussing the DEC 89 montreal shooting by Marc Lepane, The Question came up if the Mini 14 is now a Restricted or non Restricted rifle. I think that it is non Restricted, but my father thinks it is , can anyone help me out.:redface:

You call yourself rifleman and you didnt know it was non restricted!!!
 
Is that a fact?

...An interesting fact is that the goof tried to make his Mini 14 into a full auto firearm but screwed it up. He ended up with nothing more than a single shot firearm where he had to draw the bolt back after each shot.

How do you know?
 
Originally, I read in a forum that the coroner's report stated that the firearm was tampered with to turn it into a full auto weapon and that the result was that it wouldn't fire unless the bolt was pulled back for every shot.

Now I must retract my original statement. I have found the coroner's report in english and after reading through it, I cannot find anything written to support this. I quote sections now where the required information should show up.

2.2.6 Weapons used
Based on the expert report prepared by the person in charge of the ballistics section of the Laboratoire de police scientifique [forensic science laboratory], the weapon used by Lépine in the shootings was a Sturm Ruger brand rifle, mini-14 model, .223 calibre Rem., serial no. 185-34626, 5-, 20- or 30- cartridge capacity, with a barrel length of 470 mm and overall length of 943 mm.
After the incident, the following items were found at the scene, in Room B-311, near the rifle: a 5-bullet capacity magazine, empty, and, on the first chair in the third row, a 30-bullet capacity magazine, also empty. As well, a second 30-bullet capacity magazine, also empty, was found in the second floor corridor.
The rifle was in firing condition and had a trigger pressure of about 2.6 kg for single fire action.
The rifle is not connected with any pending case in the ballistics files at the Laboratoire de police scientifique.
The weapon is designed and manufactured to fire projectiles at a speed greater than 152.4 m/s (500 ft/sec).

2.6 CONCLUSIONS
As unfortunate as this event was, it was not an exceptional one from the perspective of the emergency services. An armed attack by a single person is, in itself, an event that the SPCUM must deal with on a regular basis.
Nonetheless, we must consider the sixty (60) unused bullets that Marc Lépine left at the scene when he decided to put an end to this terrible episode, although he was in no danger: no police assault was in progress or in any obvious state of preparation. Thank heaven, he decided on his own that enough was enough.
The issue of firearms control has intentionally not been addressed. With the unlimited ammunition and time that Marc Lépine had available to him, he would probably have been able to achieve similar results even with a conventional hunting weapon, which itself is readily accessible.

I apologize for repeating something as fact without going through the trouble of finding the sources first.

Here is the coroner's report in english.

http://members.shaw.ca/tmcveigh/Projects/GunRights/coronerreport.html
 
The issue of firearms control has intentionally not been addressed. With the unlimited ammunition and time that Marc Lépine had available to him, he would probably have been able to achieve similar results even with a conventional hunting weapon, which itself is readily accessible.

This comment really has become reality, with response teams now waiting for back-up/reinforcements and not rushing in, it really doesn't matter what type of weapon an assailant has, they really do have unlimited time to archive their desired results. A 5 round clip or 30 round clip will have no real impact on saving lives.

The whole event is a tragedy!

/cl
 
I am starting to get a little gun shy about posting things as facts after this particular thread but it is my understanding that magazine restrictions came about specifically because of the Montreal massacre.

I don't understand what the big deal is? What fact did I misrepresent? If you look at the section of the report that I quoted - Section 2.6 it makes it perfectly clear that the aftermath of the event was inevitable regardless of what type of weapon was available to the perpetrator. So my point being that if the gun had no impact on the amount of damage, then magazine restrictions would also have no impact.

So logically, magazine restrictions NOR firearm restrictions would not have and will not in the future help with reducing this type of violence.

/cl
 
I don't understand what the big deal is? What fact did I misrepresent?

I don't understand what the big deal is either. You didn't misrepresent any facts. I agree with you.

So logically, magazine restrictions NOR firearm restrictions would not have and will not in the future help with reducing this type of violence.

Tell that to the government. From what I am to understand, the Montreal massacre led directly to magazine restrictions in Bill C-17, regardless of what the coroner's report stated.
 
He probably could have done similar damage with a winchester 94 or something similar, as mentioned. Regardless of how many rounds he fired and how many lives he took, its was still a tragedy. Good thing the police learned from it, and stopped that wacko Kimveer Gill before he could do the same level of bloodshed.
 
I Always felt that this was the first muslim terrorist attack on Canadian soil. Marc Lepine was not his real name. His real name was Gamil Gharbi, a young Algerian guy who was brought up to hate women by his Muslim Father.
 
The fact that he was a Muslim, was never fully explored he was seen simply as a masongenist, and not someone who had a cultural hate on for women bred into him from his Algerian (muslim) father.

When we allow people from the third world to come here, lets not be surprised when they continue to exhibit the social norms and behaviors which are acceptable at home.
 
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