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Got a phone call tonight from Bill Joyce of the FBI asking for any and all who have been done wrong to fill out on the net an IC3 report. Boys he wants to move on this, are you going to or not. The man thinks he can do something but wants all the people he can get. With the big to do about this it shouldnt even be a decision, or so you all told me in PM's
 
Say what now?

In other words, everyone who go screwed should participate in a joint complaint to the feds. Then they *might* have enough evidence to lay fraud charges against Leo, IF they can prove he's a repeat offender and does this intentionally. Just make sure you have copies of all your e-mail conversations, receipts/money transfer info and other relevant stuff.

Good luck. Hit this assh*le where it hurts... anyone who screws fellow firearm owners like this deserves nothing less than a steel toe boot the head.


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Most certainly because the locker room talk, and doing the deed has long been proven to be to different things

guys like Leo know that and use it to thier advantage. Makes us suckers who try to be honest look like fools.
 
guys like Leo know that and use it to thier advantage. Makes us suckers who try to be honest look like fools.

Your right and the tragic part is this guy from the FBI sounds hungry for him. Now he didnt tell me anything but when a guy like that sounds hungry and we already know hamels dirty ya really got to wonder what else he's got on him and just building, cause we wouldnt get so excited about a canuk and a few bucks, but we talk like little school boys among ourselves and this FBI fellow wont get the extra ammo he wants and hamel wont get all he deserves. Tis for shame. I'm a little:mad:but having lived in this country a while now I must say I'm not:eek:
 
BTT to remind sellers that they do not have to accurately desrcibe firearms, make refunds or even bother sending the gun. Worse that will happen is that one guy in 10 will do anything to protect themselves or others. If your as smart as LEo generally you 'll be able to idetify the 10% who will standup for themselves way before they cause any harm. It has been years and Laughing fool is the first to do the right thing.

If anyone doubts this, I'm willing to share some of the assinine emails this joker sent me.

So forward them to the G man


WOW! I've had a few PMs from some people who have also been burned by Leo Hamel.
Sounds like he makes a habbit of sending JUNK to Canada.

Why would they tell you and not the cop?

He just burned a friend of mine. He won an auction, sent a $775usd m/o to Leo. Never heard back, won't return calls and the m/o was definatley cashed.

You are'nt going to pursue a 1000 dollar theft? Wanna buy a nice gun cheap???? let me know

I will join the chorus here telling people to watch out for LEO. This guy refused to send me a nice MKII because his no reserve auction didn't go high enough.

Sounds like fraud to me read the GB contract

When the piece of crap I bought arrived the frame was so bent the hammer wouldn't move

So why not just let Leo rip off another guy?

Fairfax has screwed me too, I have recently threatened him with mail fraud and he continues to hide behind his secretary and I never actually wants to talk to me!!

Typically threats are made by people who no intention of following through with any signifigant action. As soon as you levied the threat he laughed to himself and sent you to frigoffity land.


So in summary Leo is smart enough to have identified an easy 'mark' (i.e canadians). He is also resourceful enough to keep his scam going for a very long time. He is obviously savy enough to have convinced you all to part with big chunks of change. I'd say darwin favors the fruition of the hammels.

Guess it is hard to blame him really if he did'nt rip you all off you would have fell for the next crook in line.

BTW I would of sent him money on at least one occassion if Dingus had'nt warned me off. Thanks.
 
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If all these guys got screwed why don't they do something about it. Laughingfool did the leg work, now anyone and everyone who ever had bad dealings with this guy should hop on this wagon and show mr. Fairfax we aren't a bunch of whiney pussies.... right boys? boys??? where'd everyone go?
 
It is typical and discusting and a big part of the reason the shooting community are in the fix we're in.
All talk-no show
 
In all honesty, I'll say again. I've found these guys that are up the chain in enforcement agencies DO NOT show emotion. Lets be honest,they cant. I find them to be the kings of poker facing. Man this guy was hungry and DID NOT hide it. Knew the hamel name. I may be WAY OUT here, but you got to wonder when a guy like that knows the name, drops the poker face and darned near shows glee, what else does he got? Come on guys just think, hamels dirty. You think he's only dirt exclusively to us? NOT. When your a certain way it shows up in many areas. When I told this Bill fella I had more people he was more than mildly enthused and said I quote "PLEASE have them fill out IC3 forms,they each have to do one". cgn member "survive" the talk from you," ya you get er rolling and I'm all in, I'm going to drive down there,ta da ta da ta da". EEya sure you are. Smokepole,how did you fair in the end. Ya in the end, thats probably fairly accurate. Well Mr. Greentips I would encourage the removal of the thread "BEWARE OF US DEALER" from its sticky stature as the space could apparently be better utilized by a thread about playing with yoyos. Ya I'm pissed. I saw your rage(haha) and acted and now look stupid. Remember this,laughingfool just might be what I am or I just might be the opposite
 
Im sure that happens alot but makeing a big deal about this with the USA postal service or what Ever will just make things Worse for us not him

Don't blow up your own ship just to catch one rat

These quotes from the Fairfax thread stand out to me. Seems everyone is worried about restrictions being tightened so they would rather hush up about the whole thing and drop it so they can continue to buy antiques.
 
Seems everyone is worried about restrictions being tightened so they would rather hush up about the whole thing and drop it so they can continue to buy antiques

Glad we don't apply that logic to the rest of the laws which make our society a community and not a jungle. If the silent masses figure they are protecting themselves by being sheep they need to read some history. Pretty arrogant to figure the USA would need thier testimony as an excuse to do anything. LOL.

Hats off to you Laughingfool, glad there are a few Canadians left.
 
Smokepole,how did you fair in the end. Ya in the end, thats probably fairly accurate. Well Mr. Greentips I would encourage the removal of the thread "BEWARE OF US DEALER" from its sticky stature as the space could apparently be better utilized by a thread about playing with yoyos. Ya I'm pissed. I saw your rage(haha) and acted and now look stupid. Remember this,laughingfool just might be what I am or I just might be the opposite

I don't think you look stupid, laughingfool, just because some of the others here who have been stung by Leo Hammel haven't stepped up to join your cause. I encourage you to do whatever you see as fit and I wish you luck in any action against Leo Hammel.
I dissagree with you about deleting the original thread, as it serves a purpose to warn others of Leo's ways. I battled with Leo for months. I started the original thread, I left bad feedback for fairfaxx, and I pissed Leo off. I warned everyone here that reads the original thread. I'm done, I have no more time for this and I have no intention of joining an action with the FBI against Leo. I'll take my loss and call it lesson learned.

I refer you to a quote frome my original thread:

Not to worry, I'm done with this guy. Lesson learned. I have a few more feedback oppertunities @ GB and I plan to keep this thread active to be sure the newcomers to the antiques game won't miss it. I'll be satisfied with that, and if it gets a little harder for Leo Hammel to sell his junky guns to Canadians because of it, so much the better.

Again, I wish you luck and I hope Leo gets hit by the sh!tstorm.
 
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